Potential Difference in case of electrons

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The discussion revolves around the concept of potential difference and its implications for electrons, particularly in relation to energy changes when an electron moves through a potential difference. Participants explore the formula W = Q . V and its application to electrons, raising questions about energy gain or loss and the conventions used in different contexts.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether an electron gains energy when moving through a potential difference, given that it has a negative charge.
  • Another participant explains that current is typically defined in terms of positive charge flow, while in some contexts, electron flow is treated differently, affecting the interpretation of work done.
  • A different viewpoint asserts that an increase in potential for an electron leads to a decrease in its potential energy due to its negative charge.
  • One participant discusses the kinetic energy gained by an electron when accelerated across a potential difference and the implications of work done on the electron in different scenarios.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the interpretation of potential difference for electrons, with some asserting that energy loss occurs while others suggest that work is done on the electron. The discussion remains unresolved, with multiple competing perspectives presented.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference different conventions in physics regarding charge flow and energy calculations, indicating potential limitations in understanding based on the context or source material used.

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If the potential difference between point A and point B is 10 Volts, then when a unit positive charge passes from A to B, the charge loses 10 J of energy.

But when an electron passes from A to B does it gain energy, because in W = Q . V , Q is negative.

I am really confused in potential difference and in the formula W = Q . V.

I have seen in some books that when electron is said in the question the calculation use the value of positive elementary charge, why is it so?
 
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In physics the current is defined in terms of a positive flow of charge; in ordinary wires and batteries this positive current is the negative of the actual flow of electron charge.

In some engineering contexts they concentrate on the electron flow; in this case they use a different convention: the positive current is the flow of electrons. Hence they are treating the electrons as "positive" in some sense. This is useful when you are studying electronic devices.

The question of "work done by" or "work done on" requires a change of sign. But the absolute values are the same.

So you just have to understand the conventions being used by the text.
 
You must be confused (or may be the book is confused). The electron has negative charge so, as you suspected, an increase of its potential V corresponds to a decrease of its potential energy U because U = q V and q is negative for an electron.
 
When an electron is accelerated across a gap with a PD across it, it ends up with KE. When it passes through a resistance, the small amount of KE that it gains, is negligible. In both cases, eV energy is supplied (and transferred) so the work done (force times displacement, in the end) on it is positive.
You can be confident that there is no self contradiction in the system. All you need to do is to go over your problem and take strict account of the signs. This will give you the right answer, which will be that work is done on the electron in both cases. The resulting energy of the electron is either passed on to the material of the resistor (heating) or on the material of the Anode (heat, also).
If your book seems to be getting it wrong, look at another book and that may resolve your difficulty.
 

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