Potential difference in circuits

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The discussion revolves around understanding potential difference in circuits, specifically in the context of two resistors arranged in series and parallel configurations. Participants are exploring how to determine when the potential difference is at a maximum and the implications of resistor values on calculations.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants are attempting to understand the relationship between resistor values and potential difference in both series and parallel circuits. Questions are raised regarding the meaning of "maximum potential difference" and the necessity of using equivalent resistance in calculations. There is also a discussion about the appropriate formulas to use for calculating power and potential difference.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants seeking clarification on the definitions and context of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of power equations and the need to consider the power ratings of the resistors in different configurations. There is an exploration of how to calculate current in both series and parallel setups.

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Participants note the importance of including the voltage source and circuit diagrams for a clearer understanding of the problem. There is a mention of specific resistor values and power ratings, which may influence the calculations being discussed.

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Homework Statement


In series and parallel circuits, I'm confused like let's say 2 resistors are placed both in series and parallel, how can we tell when the potential difference is at a maximum? Like if one of these resistors has a higher value than the other, do we use that in our calculation since it is the higher value or are there certain exceptions...?


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lha08 said:

Homework Statement


In series and parallel circuits, I'm confused like let's say 2 resistors are placed both in series and parallel, how can we tell when the potential difference is at a maximum? Like if one of these resistors has a higher value than the other, do we use that in our calculation since it is the higher value or are there certain exceptions...?


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Use the equations for combining resistors in series and in parallel. In series, their values just add. Do you know the equation for the equivalent resistance for two resistors in parallel?
 
berkeman said:
Use the equations for combining resistors in series and in parallel. In series, their values just add. Do you know the equation for the equivalent resistance for two resistors in parallel?

yes i do but like when they ask for the maximum potential difference, do we always have to use the equivalent resistance for both series and parallel circuits? I think it's just the maximum potential difference that's sort of throwing me off.
 
lha08 said:
yes i do but like when they ask for the maximum potential difference, do we always have to use the equivalent resistance for both series and parallel circuits? I think it's just the maximum potential difference that's sort of throwing me off.

The term "maximum potential difference" has no meaning without more context. Maximum with respect to what? What is the voltage source, and where is it in relation to these resistor circuits you are asking about.

Could you state the whole problem word-for-word please, and include the circuit diagram if possible. That would help a lot in answering yur question.
 
berkeman said:
The term "maximum potential difference" has no meaning without more context. Maximum with respect to what? What is the voltage source, and where is it in relation to these resistor circuits you are asking about.

Could you state the whole problem word-for-word please, and include the circuit diagram if possible. That would help a lot in answering yur question.

'Two resistors with values 2 ohms and 5 ohms are each rated at 10 W. What is the maximum potential difference that can be applied when they are placed
a) in parallel
b) in series
and the answers are a) 4.47 V and b) 9.9 V
but like i used the formula P=V^2/R but when i plug it in and solve, they don't come out to the right answer...maybe I'm using the wrong formula? like perhaps i need o find the current first?
 
lha08 said:
'Two resistors with values 2 ohms and 5 ohms are each rated at 10 W. What is the maximum potential difference that can be applied when they are placed
a) in parallel
b) in series
and the answers are a) 4.47 V and b) 9.9 V
but like i used the formula P=V^2/R but when i plug it in and solve, they don't come out to the right answer...maybe I'm using the wrong formula? like perhaps i need o find the current first?

In this case, it would be easier probably to use the P = I^2R eqiation. The trick here is that you need to calculate the power in *each* resistor in those two configurations, to make sure that one does not get over its rated power.

So what is the current I(R) (current as a function of resistance) when the two resistors are placed in series? The same current flows through both resistors, but the power P = I^R is different, right?

And when you have the resitors in parallel, what are the two currents going to be? (they won't be equal).

When you have the equations for each resistor's power as a function of resistance for the two configurations, set the max power to 10W and solve for the power supply voltage that would be applied to make that current.
 

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