Potential function of a vector feild

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The discussion revolves around finding the potential function of a given vector field F(x,y,z) = <1+y^2z^3, 1+2xyz^3, 1+3xy^2z^2>. Participants are exploring the process of integrating components of the vector field and the implications of those integrations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss integrating each component of the vector field and express confusion about the third component. There are attempts to differentiate the resulting expressions with respect to different variables to find functions D(y,z) and E(z).

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on differentiating the integrated functions to find missing components. There is ongoing exploration of the relationships between the functions derived from the integrations, with some participants expressing uncertainty about their conclusions.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention challenges with specific terms in the vector field and the implications of integrating and differentiating those terms. There is a focus on ensuring that the derived functions are consistent across different variables.

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Homework Statement


find the potential function of the vector field F(x,y,z0=<1+y^2z^3,1+2xyz^3,1+3xy^2z^2>

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The Attempt at a Solution


for some reason i can't figure out what to do with the third point.
i took the integrals of each point and got
integral(1+y^2z^3) Dc/dx =x+xy^2z^3+D(y,z)
integral(1+2xyz^3) Dc/dy =y+xy^2z^3+D(x,z)
integral(1+xy^2z^2) Dc/dz =z+xy^2z^3+D(x,y)

at this point i get stuck. if anyone could give at least a slight nudge in the right direction that would be great
 
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kekal6 said:

Homework Statement


find the potential function of the vector field F(x,y,z0=<1+y^2z^3,1+2xyz^3,1+3xy^2z^2>

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


for some reason i can't figure out what to do with the third point.
i took the integrals of each point and got
integral(1+y^2z^3) Dc/dx =x+xy^2z^3+D(y,z)
integral(1+2xyz^3) Dc/dy =y+xy^2z^3+D(x,z)
integral(1+xy^2z^2) Dc/dz =z+xy^2z^3+D(x,y)

at this point i get stuck. if anyone could give at least a slight nudge in the right direction that would be great

Try differentiating your integral with respect to something else.

For example, you know that f(x,y,z) = x + x y^2 z^3 + D(y,z). Now try differentiating that with respect to y... you know that it will equal F(x,y,z) in the j direction. so, \frac{\partial f}{\partial y} = 1 + 2 x y z^3. Use that to find D(y,z).
 
ok so i did that and then set the whole thing to df/dy and got the c(z)=z. so do i just keep doing that all the way thru to get c(y) and C(x) and just throw that on the end? the part that's really throwing me off is the 1+stuff. i guess I am a little more confused then i thought i was.
 
rather Dz Dy and Dx sry
 
Well, let me walk you through how I did it for y.

We know from partially integrating f wrt x that f(x,y,z) = x + x y^2 z^3 + D(y,z). We also know that f_y = 1 + 2 x y z^3. Differentiating our new f wrt y, we get this:

2 x y z^3 + \frac{\partial D}{\partial y} = f_y = 1 + 2 x y z^3

Subtracting parts from each one, we get:

\frac{\partial D}{\partial y} = 1

So obviously D(y,z) = y + E(z). And then you have f(x,y,z) = x + y + x y^2 z^3 + E(z)[/tex]. Solve for E(z) using similar methods.
 
alright i did it all the way through and got E(z)=z E(y)=y and E(x)=x because that's the only difference in the equations once i get down to that point for each of them so would my answer then be x+y+z+xy^2z^3 or is my logic off completely on the E's?
 
kekal6 said:
alright i did it all the way through and got E(z)=z E(y)=y and E(x)=x because that's the only difference in the equations once i get down to that point for each of them so would my answer then be x+y+z+xy^2z^3 or is my logic off completely on the E's?

No, you have that correct. Correct up to a constant, at least.
 
ok thank you very much! did not expect someone to answer all my questions at 3 am where i am!
 
kekal6 said:
ok thank you very much! did not expect someone to answer all my questions at 3 am where i am!

Well, it's 1 AM here, but I stay up late.
 

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