Power calculations for a motor spinning a turntable

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The discussion revolves around the power requirements for a motor spinning a turntable, specifically comparing a turntable with a diameter of 25cm to one with a diameter of 50cm, both weighing 1kg and operating at 2000rpm. The original poster questions whether doubling the diameter necessitates a motor with double the power, despite the absence of load on the turntable.

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  • Participants explore the relationship between power, diameter, and speed, questioning the assumptions regarding power requirements for maintaining rotation. Some mention the importance of factors like bearing friction and air resistance in determining power needs.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the factors affecting power requirements. There is a recognition that the power needed for constant rotation is influenced by friction and resistance rather than solely by size or speed. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored.

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Participants note the lack of specific information regarding frictional forces and air resistance, which are critical to fully understanding the power dynamics at play. The original poster's question is framed within a homework context, prompting further inquiry into relevant equations and principles.

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Homework Statement
Physics question
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Energy/power- w/speed
Hi, I have a 1 HP motor spinning a turntable (just a wheel) weighing 1kg, diameter 25cm speed 2000rpm. (Arbitrary specs). If I have to spin a turntable with the same weight (1kg) but double the diameter (50cm) at the same speed, would I necessarily need a motor with double the power (2 HP)? There is no load on the turntable, ( just spinning).

Thank you kindly.
 
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mapika123 said:
Homework Statement:: Physics question
Relevant Equations:: Energy/power- w/speed

Hi, I have a 1 HP motor spinning a turntable (just a wheel) weighing 1kg, diameter 25cm speed 2000rpm. (Arbitrary specs). If I have to spin a turntable with the same weight (1kg) but double the diameter (50cm) at the same speed, would I necessarily need a motor with double the power (2 HP)? There is no load on the turntable, ( just spinning).

Thank you kindly.
Welcome to PF.

Is this for homework? What equations do you know so far for spinning a circular disk?

And just to keep a disk spinning, all you have to do is overcome bearing friction. To accelerate it up to speed, that is where it takes more power.

Are you familiar with the equations involving the "Moment of Inertia" (MOI) of spinning objects?
 
The power you need to maintain a certain speed depends on your losses. In the limit that no energy is lost while the turntable is spinning, you need no power to keep it spinning. That's Newton's first law.

Argh! @berkeman preempted me.
 
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mapika123 said:
Homework Statement:: Physics question
Relevant Equations:: Energy/power- w/speed

Hi, I have a 1 HP motor spinning a turntable (just a wheel) weighing 1kg, diameter 25cm speed 2000rpm. (Arbitrary specs). If I have to spin a turntable with the same weight (1kg) but double the diameter (50cm) at the same speed, would I necessarily need a motor with double the power (2 HP)? There is no load on the turntable, ( just spinning).

Thank you kindly.
The power needed for constant rotation is not related (much) to the speed, mass or size. It depends on axial friction and a bit on air resistance.
The axial friction may be proportional to the mass. The air resistance will be a bit more for the larger size, particularly because that will increase the tangential speed at the periphery.
So it's hard to say without knowing how much each resistance contributes. If we assume no axial friction and air resistance rises as the square of the linear speed at a given radius then for the disc as a whole it would rise as the fourth power of the radius (##\int kr^2\omega^2.2\pi r.dr##). But likely it is mostly axial friction, so you might see hardly any difference.
 

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