Power Consumption and Entropy Generation

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The discussion revolves around a homework problem related to power consumption and entropy generation in a mechanical engineering context. The user calculates internal energy values based on temperature but expresses uncertainty about the correctness of their power calculation and how to approach the entropy generation aspect. Key equations for power, work, internal energy, and entropy are provided, emphasizing the importance of understanding specific internal energy and its units. The response highlights the need to consider the change in time and the correct units for specific internal energy to arrive at accurate results. Overall, the conversation focuses on clarifying the application of thermodynamic principles in the problem.
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Homework Statement


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Homework Equations


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P = power. W = work. U = internal energy. S = entropy. t = time. Q = heat. T = temperature. F = force. d = distance.

P = ΔW/Δt= ΔU/Δt

ΔS = ΔQ/T

dm/dt = ρ⋅dV/dt

W = F ⋅ d

ΔU = Q - W

Where m is mass, V is volume, and ρ is the density of the fluid. Water ρ = 1000 kg/m3

The Attempt at a Solution


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Since Uint = 4.2T
Uin = (4.2)(300K) = 1260J
Uout = (4.2)(370K) = 1554J

P = ΔU/Δt = (1554J - 1260J) = 294 J/sec

I don't know if this is correct. And I'm not sure how to approach (b), regarding entropy generation.
 
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I'm really lost. Any hints? Maybe this should be in engineering. It's for my Mechanical Engineering 205 class...
 
gloppypop said:
I'm really lost. Any hints? Maybe this should be in engineering. It's for my Mechanical Engineering 205 class...
The problem statement did tell you that the specific internal energy and specific entropy were u = 4.2 T and s = 4.2 \ln T respectively. Let's just concentrate on the specific internal energy for now.

The "specific" part of specific internal energy tells you that it's quantifying the energy per amount of stuff. This amount of stuff is usually measured in units of kilograms (kg) in problems like these, but don't be surprised in future coursework if it's measured in moles, pounds, tons, etc.

So here, u isn't in units of energy. But rather it's in units of energy per unit mass. I'm guessing, probably J/kg.

Also, you haven't figured the change in time into your equations either. You've suddenly converted units of J to J/sec without any rationale.

Figure out both of those, and I suspect you'll get the right answer. :smile: [Hint: if you're clever, you might be able to figure them both out in a single step.]
 
The book claims the answer is that all the magnitudes are the same because "the gravitational force on the penguin is the same". I'm having trouble understanding this. I thought the buoyant force was equal to the weight of the fluid displaced. Weight depends on mass which depends on density. Therefore, due to the differing densities the buoyant force will be different in each case? Is this incorrect?

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