Power Consumption of a Pump: Solve at 500kPa, 60m3/h, 80% Efficiency

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around calculating the power consumption of a pump operating under specific conditions: a pressure of 500 kPa, a flow rate of 60 m3/h, and an efficiency of 80%. The focus is on understanding the relationship between pressure, flow rate, and power output, with participants exploring relevant equations and concepts.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant states the formula for power as P = q_m ρ g h_p but expresses uncertainty about the necessary information to proceed.
  • Another participant questions the meaning of q_m and suggests that pressure can be related to energy head instead of height.
  • A participant clarifies that q_m refers to mass flow rate and emphasizes the need to consider the delivered power output of the pump in relation to efficiency.
  • There is a discussion about the use of volumetric flow rate instead of mass flow rate, with some participants expressing confusion about the initial steps in the calculation.
  • One participant proposes a formula involving h_p = p / ρ g and seeks confirmation on whether this leads to a correct final formula for power.
  • Another participant agrees that the formula can be simplified, indicating that ρ and g will cancel out in the process.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of understanding regarding the relationships between pressure, flow rate, and power. There is no consensus on the correct approach to the problem, and multiple interpretations of the relevant equations are present.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully resolved the dependencies on definitions and assumptions related to flow rates and the application of efficiency in the power calculation. The discussion reflects uncertainty about the initial steps necessary to derive the power consumed by the pump.

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Homework Statement


Determine the power consumed by a pump when it is pumping a fluid of density 1,200kg/m^-3 60m3/h at 500kPa with an 80% overall efficiency.

Homework Equations


I believe it to be: [tex]P = q_m ρ g h_p[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution


Stuck at the above part, I don't have enough info?
 
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jderulo said:
I believe it to be: [tex]P = q_m ρ g h_p[/tex]
The formula looks useful. What is qm?

Instead of g and a height, you are given the pressure. How are those concepts related?
 
mfb said:
The formula looks useful. What is qm?

Instead of g and a height, you are given the pressure. How are those concepts related?

qm is mass flow-rate. g is gravity, h isn't height but energy head..
 
jderulo said:
g is gravity, h isn't height but energy head..
Similar enough.

The main idea is that you can write down a similar formula where you replace ρ, g and hp to include pressure instead of those two parameters.

I am surprised that it is the mass flow rate and not the volume flow rate.

Anyway, you need the delivered power output of the pump (that's what your formula can do).
Once you have that, you can see how you can include the 80% efficiency.
 
mfb said:
Similar enough.

The main idea is that you can write down a similar formula where you replace ρ, g and hp to include pressure instead of those two parameters.

I am surprised that it is the mass flow rate and not the volume flow rate.

Anyway, you need the delivered power output of the pump (that's what your formula can do).
Once you have that, you can see how you can include the 80% efficiency.

My mistake it's volumetric flow. - but unsure how to do the first point.
 
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[tex]h_p = p / ρ g[/tex]

?

Am I right in thinking the final formula would be

[tex]P = q_v ρ g (p / ρ g)[/tex]
 
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jderulo said:
[tex]h_p = p / ρ g[/tex]

?

Am I right in thinking the final formula would be

[tex]P = q_v ρ g (p / ρ g)[/tex]
Right. You can simplify that formula, ρ and g will drop out and you are left with a simple product.
 

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