Power Push-Pull Amp ( class AB )

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The discussion revolves around the challenges faced in building a Power Push-Pull Amplifier (Class AB) circuit, particularly issues encountered when transitioning from simulation in Multisim to real-world implementation. Participants share experiences, troubleshooting tips, and circuit design considerations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses difficulty in getting their Class AB amplifier circuit to work in reality despite it functioning in Multisim.
  • Another participant suggests that Multisim may not accurately reflect real-world circuit behavior, citing personal experiences with discrepancies between simulation and actual performance.
  • A suggestion is made to build the amplifier stage by stage, testing each part before proceeding, which has been a successful approach for one participant in their own build.
  • One participant emphasizes the importance of verifying the reliability of circuit sources, warning that some online resources may be misleading or incorrect.
  • Details about the specific circuit components used are shared, including transistors and resistors, along with modifications made to achieve amplification.
  • A participant advises adding an emitter resistor to the Push-Pull stage and setting the output to 0V without an input signal as a necessary step.
  • Another participant expresses skepticism about using discrete transistors for audio amplification in modern times, suggesting that integrated circuits are more common.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants have differing views on the reliability of simulation software versus real-world circuit behavior, and there is no consensus on the best approach to building the amplifier. Some participants agree on the importance of careful construction and testing, while others question the choice of components and methods used.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various assumptions about circuit design and the potential for errors in both simulation and physical assembly. There are unresolved questions regarding the specific circuit modifications and their effects on performance.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for electronics enthusiasts, students working on amplifier projects, and individuals interested in the practical challenges of circuit design and implementation.

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Hi :shy:

I'm a new member here

for a long time I'm looking for a help in my project Power Push-Pull Amp ( class AB ) :cry:

Can anyone help me with circuit diagram in Multisim for class AB or anything :biggrin:
 
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What exactly do you have a problem with?
 
I had a circuit it is work in Multisim, but when I build it a real one

It doesn't work !
 
Show us full circuit diagram.
 
Hi , well from my experience I can say that Multisim isn't always so accurate on some circuits when testing them.As real life is close to the book but not by the book always.
i just built some multivibrators and in real life with the exact same parts and circuit they behave different than in simulation.
You should show us the circuit to tell you more about it but basically any amplifier should be built stage by stage , you build one stage at a time then check it test it and if it works then build the next one.
I built an AB class push-pull amp too and firstly I had some problems but then it was just error correction and some faulty parts and everything went on.

Also it would be great for you to tell us not only the circuit but from where you got it.Some sources on the internet are not reliable at all and some are there because they put scams on the internet just for fun so that someone who isn't experienced enough would have problems with building one.
 
Hi , actually it is a circuit for ( Electronic Devices (Conventional current version) ) book P368

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I hope it is clear :rolleyes:

First I used as it said in the book (in Multisim) :

3 Resistors + 3 Diodes + (2 transistor: 2N3904 + 1 transistor: 2N3906 + 2 transistor: BD135 )

but the wave doesn't amplified, after that I add 1 capacitor in the input and another three Resistors ( R Load in the output ) it amplified.

in real, I do the same, the output amplified. The problem is I want to see the top half wave and the bottom half wave. I tried to separate the Q1 and Q2 from the circuit and test it, but it doesn't work ! and the same for Q3 and Q4 !
 
You should never built this Push-Pull Amp in the first place.
First you should add 1 ohm emitter resistor to Push-Pull stage. And use R1 resistor to set 0V at output without input signal .
 
I can't imagine people assemble an audio amp from discrete transistors in the 21st century. There are integrated circuits for that.

We did use discrete transistors when I was a teenager, and I have grey hair now.
 

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