Power Series Change of Indices: I broke math again

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The discussion revolves around the manipulation of infinite series, specifically focusing on changing indices in power series. The original poster presents a series involving terms of the form \(\sum_0^\infty n(n-1)d_nx^{n-1}\) and seeks to combine multiple sums into a single series with consistent powers of \(x\). The context suggests a connection to differential equations and series solutions.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • The original poster attempts to change the index of summation to align the powers of \(x\) across different series. They question whether changing indices will always lead to the cancellation of unwanted terms. Other participants discuss the implications of singularities in differential equations and the potential for negative powers of \(x\) to arise in certain cases.

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Participants are exploring the implications of index changes in power series and discussing the conditions under which terms may cancel. There is acknowledgment of the relationship to the Frobenius method and considerations regarding singularities in differential equations. Some guidance is provided regarding the nature of solutions and potential pitfalls in the approach.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of a Frobenius solution and the specific nature of the differential equation being addressed, including the concern about terms that may not vanish under index changes. The discussion highlights the importance of understanding the behavior of series near singular points.

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I have an infinite series that looks like this:

[tex]\sum_0^\infty n(n-1)d_nx^{n-1} + \sum_0^\infty n(n-1)d_nx^n + \sum_0^\infty d_nx^n[/tex]I wish to combine all three sums so that they must all have same powers of x and start at same index. The second and third summations are fine. To change the first, I simply let [itex]j = n-1 \Rightarrow n = j+1[/itex]. So at n = 0, j = -1 and so we have[tex]\sum_{-1}^\infty j(j+1)d_{j+1}x^{j} + \sum_0^\infty j(j-1)d_jx^j + \sum_0^\infty d_jx^j[/tex]Now I might be able to answer my own question here: In the original summation that ran fromm n = 0, clearly the lowest power of 'x' that would ever appear is x0 at n = 0. However, here, at j = -1, we have an x-1, but we "lucked out" since there is a coefficient of (j+1)=0 that causes it to vanish.

I am assuming here, that it will always be the case that by changing the indices, we will produce a coefficients that cause powers of x that are not supposed to exist to vanish.

Is this correct to say?
 
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If the differential equation is nonsingular, what you say is probably correct. Note: I think this is related to your other post about the Frobenius method. When there is a singularity in the ode, you might run into [tex]x^{-a}[/tex] terms that can't be canceled by anything else if you try a power series that starts with an [tex]x^0[/tex] order term. As an alternative to the Frobenius method, you can attempt a Laurent series solution, which would include at least some powers of x to negative powers.
 
Hi fzero :smile:

That is interesting because this is a Frobenius solution. It is part of my solution to a Frobenius EQ that had roots that differ by an integer. I am now seeking y2 in the form [itex]y_2 = ky_1\ln(x) + \sum_o^\infty d_nx^n[/itex] and the summation in the OP is part of the mess the.
 
Well what happened in that first term is that the factor [tex]n\rightarrow j+1[/tex] came down when you took a derivative. So it's properly zero in the [tex]n=0[/tex] term because it was the derivative of a constant. However, if we had a term

[tex]x^{-1} \sum_{n=0} c_n x^n,[/tex]

it would take a very special coincidence to be able cancel the singular term after a shift. Because you are seeking a Frobenius solution, you're avoiding these terms by construction.
 

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