Power Transmission: How High Voltage/Low Current Works

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The discussion revolves around the principles of power transmission, specifically the use of high voltage and low current to minimize energy loss in transmission lines. Participants explore the mechanics of transformers, Ohm's law, and the implications of back EMF in the context of electrical power distribution.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that electrical power is transmitted at high voltage and low current to reduce energy loss due to i²R losses.
  • There is a question about how increasing voltage while keeping resistance constant leads to a decrease in current, with references to Ohm's law (V=IR).
  • Some participants explain that transformers are used to step up the voltage before transmission, which in turn decreases the current while maintaining the same power output.
  • One participant raises a question about how transformers can step up voltage and allow for a smaller current, suggesting that back EMF may play a role.
  • Another participant discusses the concept of impedance transformation, noting that the load's current produces back EMF, affecting the apparent resistance seen by the high voltage supply.
  • Participants emphasize the relationship between power loss in transmission lines and the need to manage current and voltage to minimize losses.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the principle that high voltage and low current reduce energy loss during transmission. However, there are unresolved questions regarding the mechanics of transformers and the implications of back EMF, indicating that multiple views and uncertainties remain in the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Some participants reference specific equations and concepts, such as Ohm's law and power loss calculations, but the discussion does not resolve how these apply in all scenarios, leaving some assumptions and conditions unaddressed.

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From what I have read electrical power is transferred at high voltage and low current in order to reduce energy loss in the form of i^2R. High voltage at low current is the same power as low voltage at high current.

My question is how do they do it. If they apply a higher voltage and the resistance in the transmission wire is not changing how is the current made smaller.

From V=IR applying a higher voltage should increase the current and the power.

I'm confused.
 
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Usually they would step down the voltages/currents using a transformer.
 
Ultimately, it is the load that pulls however much it needs.
 
MotoPayton said:
From what I have read electrical power is transferred at high voltages in order to reduce energy loss in the form of i^2R. High voltage at low current is the same power as low voltage at high current.

My question is how do they do it. If they apply a higher voltage and the resistance in the transmission wire is not changing how is the current made smaller.

From V=IR applying a higher voltage should increase the current and the power.

I'm confused.

They choose a very high voltage to transmit the power - so the I (in the VI=P) can be low. Most transmission uses AC so, at the consumer end, a transformer will reduce the volts to a manageable value for the short distance from transformer to consumer.
 
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So before the electrical power is transferred over a large distance a transformer will be used to to step up the voltage. This in turn will decease the current since the power going into the transformer is the same going out assuming no energy loss.

So now my question leads to... How can a transformer step up the voltage to a high amount yet only allow a small current. Because form the external circuit point of view all it sees is a high voltage and should obtain a higher current consistent with V=IR.

I guess the answer lies in the back EMF of the transformer?
 
Yes - the current that the load is taking (from the secondary of the transformer) produces a back emf and the high voltage supply 'sees' a much higher resistance than is actually connected to the secondary. Stepping down the volts by a factor of ten has the effect of increasing the apparent resistance by a factor of 100 - thus keeping VI the same. It's called Impedance Transformation.
 
Also see "en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_sail" .
 
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The proper equation to analyzer this is Ohm's law for power loss in a resistor:

P = i*i*r
 
taterz said:
The proper equation to analyzer this is Ohm's law for power loss in a resistor:

P = i*i*r

To analyse what? We already know about IsquaredR losses in the supply cable. The issue is how to reduce the I in the cable without reducing the amount of Power transmitted.
 
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Power loss in the cable is given by P(loss)=i*i*r. The power delivered to the load P(load) = v*i where v is the voltage across the load. So for any specific P(load) there is less loss transmitting to the load if "v" is made larger and "i" is made smaller.
 

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