Powering a Piezoelectric Transducer - Brett

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The discussion revolves around powering a piezoelectric transducer capable of operating between 0 watts and 50 watts, specifically at a frequency of 40 kHz. Participants explore the necessary connections and amplification required for the transducer, as well as potential applications and safety concerns associated with high power levels.

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Main Points Raised

  • Brett seeks guidance on connecting a piezoelectric transducer to a function generator and questions the need for an amplifier.
  • One participant expresses concern about the safety of operating a 50W transducer at 40 kHz, suggesting potential risks of inner ear damage and recommending caution in experimental settings.
  • Another participant questions the application of the transducer, speculating it could be related to sonar or a dog repellant device.
  • There is a suggestion to consider high-end audio amplifiers that can operate at 40 kHz, along with a query about the input impedance of the transducer for proper impedance matching.
  • One participant reflects on their experience with piezoelectric devices, associating them with accelerometers and expressing curiosity about the application, while also mentioning a previous project related to sonar arrays.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express concern about the power level and safety, indicating a shared apprehension regarding the application of the transducer. However, there is no consensus on the specific application or the best approach to amplification, leaving multiple viewpoints and uncertainties in the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not provided specific details about the input impedance of the piezoelectric transducer or the desired distortion specifications for amplification, which may affect the recommendations for amplification.

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Hi there,
I am trying to power a piezielectric transducer that can operate between 0 watts and 50 watts (max). I have a function generator to generate a sine wave at 40 kHz.

I am not sure how to go about taking the output of the function generator and connecting the piezoelectric transducer. I think I need an amplifier correct? But what kind? Etc? Any help would be great, I am totally stuck (not an electrical engineer obviously).

Thanks,
Brett
 
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50W at 40kHz? Yikes! What is the application? Is it some sonar thing, or maybe a serious dog repellant machine?

But seriously, that sounds kind of dangerous. You should be careful experimenting with something like that. I'm no expert on medical stuff, but it seems like you could get some pretty serious inner ear damage from being exposed to that level of ultrasonic energy. I wouldn't experiment with it in a lab full of unsuspecting people, for example, and you should probably wear ear protection at the very least.

40kHz is a bit above the traditional audio range, but some audiophiles claim that stereo equipment that can run up into the 40kHz range produce better audio sound than more band-limited equipment. So you might be able to find a high-end audio amp that will work for you at 40kHz. What is the input impedance of the piezo transducer? You will want to match the amp's output impedance to the transducer if you can.

What kind of distortion specs are you looking for in the amplification stage?
 
I echo the 50W?! Holy schnikies. I must admit the when I see piezoelectric I think accelerometers. It will be interesting to know of the application here. I am thinking along the same lines, possibly underwater acoustics?
 
FredGarvin said:
I must admit the when I see piezoelectric I think accelerometers. It will be interesting to know of the application here. I am thinking along the same lines, possibly underwater acoustics?
I did my senior design project on building a test apparatus for them for the company that makes the Navy's towed sonar arrays. Unfortunately, I was on the mechanical testing end, so I can't help with the electrical stuff here, but I bet the second most profitable application they had was bathroom scales!
 

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