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A ball thrown down a chimney with decreasing width will get stuck due to the increasing normal force required to counteract gravity. The forces acting on the ball become complex as the slope of the walls approaches zero, leading to a situation where the normal force appears to approach infinity. In a frictionless scenario, the ball experiences compressive forces that prevent it from moving further down. Realistically, friction would play a significant role in this scenario, affecting the ball's motion. Understanding these dynamics is crucial for accurately analyzing the forces at play.
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Hi,

If we'll build a chimney from 2 walls with a decreasing width (meaning, the length between the walls gets smaller as we go down the chimney, since the walls both have a small slope), and then throw a ball down that chimney, it would get stuck.
I am having hard time computing the forces that cause this affect. in order to resist the gravity, it seams I need very strong normal force (going to infinity as the slope goes to 0).
but when I try to express mg by perpendicular and Tangent vectors, I receive values smaller then mg (and obviously not going to infinity).

can someone help?
thanks :-)
 
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sronen20 said:
Hi,

If we'll build a chimney from 2 walls with a decreasing width (meaning, the length between the walls gets smaller as we go down the chimney, since the walls both have a small slope), and then throw a ball down that chimney, it would get stuck.
I am having hard time computing the forces that cause this affect. in order to resist the gravity, it seams I need very strong normal force (going to infinity as the slope goes to 0).
but when I try to express mg by perpendicular and Tangent vectors, I receive values smaller then mg (and obviously not going to infinity).

can someone help?
thanks :-)

You are solving the problem without friction. In a real chimney, it would be friction acting tangentially to the wall, not a balanced force acting normal to the wall. Your answer is correct- a frictionless ball in a nearly parallel chimney would get stuck at a place with nearly infinite compressive forces on it.
 
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