Pre-parachute air friction equal to post-parachute?

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The discussion centers on the forces acting on a skydiver before and after opening a parachute. Initially, the force of gravity (Fg) is constant, and the force of air friction (Ff) increases until terminal velocity is reached, where Ff equals -Fg. Upon opening the parachute, Ff temporarily exceeds Fg, causing upward acceleration until a new terminal velocity is established. Despite the increased surface area of the parachute, the air friction force remains equivalent to that experienced before the parachute was deployed due to the lower velocity of air molecules impacting the parachute.

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I was thinking of the free body diagram of a skydiver and came across something which bothered me.

Fg = Force of gravity
Ff = Force of air friction

1. The skydiver jumps out. Fg (constant) pulls down and Ff increases until terminal velocity is reached. At that point, the skydiver is falling at a constant speed and Ff = -Fg

2. The skydiver opens his parachute. Momentarily, Ff is greater in magnitude than Fg and the skydiver accelerates upwards, losing some of his falling speed until a new terminal velocity is reached.

3. The skydiver is now falling at a constant speed but with a different profile. But since he's falling at a constant speed, Ff = -Fg.

Since Fg is constant, that means step 1 and step 3's Ff's are identical. But why is the force of air friction not higher with the parachute open?

I am sure I am missing some stupid obvious thing.

edited to add: I think I figured it out. After the parachute has opened, even though there are more air molecules hitting the skydiver and parachute, they are doing so at a smaller speed, thus exerting the same total force as pre-parachute. I had erroneously gone through life thinking air friction post-chute-opening was greater. By the way, please let me know if this explanation is correct. Thanks!
 
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You've got it.

If we model the frictional force as:
f=c_{f}v^{2} with c_{f} being the coefficient of friction, v the velocity, then in the latter case, its c_f is greater than in the first.

This can be translated into your language that a higher number of molecules hits the open parachute, but at a lower speed.
 

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