Precession angle per orbit of perhelion precession mercury

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The discussion centers on the derivation of the precession angle per orbit of Mercury, specifically the relationship between the extra angle per orbit, denoted as \(\delta\), and the total precession angle \(\Delta\Phi\). The user presents an alternative relation \(\sqrt{4\pi\delta} = \Delta\Phi\) derived from the arc length of a helix and circular orbit, questioning the validity of this approximation. The conclusion reached is that the approximation relies on the principle of angular velocity addition, where the total angular velocity \(\omega\) is the vector sum of the angular velocity about the ecliptic \(\omega_0\) and the precession angular velocity \(\omega_1\), resulting in a total contribution of \(2\pi\) per orbit.

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Many derivations of mercury precession angle per orbit \Delta\Phi, equate this to extra angle per orbit \delta in excess of 2\pi

that is \delta = \Delta\Phi

But I am getting this relation

\sqrt{4\pi\delta}= \Delta\Phi

from arc length of helix and circular orbit.
What am I doing wrong?
What is the intution for above approximation? Shouldn't the total angle be less than 2\pi + \Delta\Phi
because planet takes short cut [analagous to hypotenuse length being less than sum of other two sides]
 
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I was trying to approximate perihelion precession as helix and its arc length.

It turns out the approximation used is simple angular velocity addition

if angular velocity about ecliptic is w0 and angular velocity of precession is w1,
then their vector sum is the real angular velocity
\omega= \omega0 + \omega1

now in one period T, \omega0 contributes 2\Pi because it is the motion in ecliptic and \omega1's contribution is precession per orbit by definition which adds up to angle contributed by real motion.
 

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