Predict \Delta H for NaOH(s) to NaOH(g) using Hess' Law

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The discussion revolves around predicting the enthalpy change (\Delta H) for the phase transition of sodium hydroxide from solid (NaOH(s)) to gas (NaOH(g)) using Hess' Law. Participants explore the relationships between various enthalpy values and the application of bond energies in this context.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents several known enthalpy values related to NaOH and questions whether the problem can be approached using Hess' Law or if it remains a bond energy problem.
  • Another participant expresses uncertainty about the method of converting Na(s) to Na(g) and whether this affects the state of NaOH in the calculations.
  • A participant attempts to derive \Delta H for NaOH(s) to NaOH(g) using a series of reactions and bond energies, arriving at a value of 159 kJ, but seeks validation and clarification on their method.
  • There is a request for assistance and clarification on the correct approach to the problem, indicating a lack of consensus on the methodology.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the correct method to predict \Delta H for the transition from NaOH(s) to NaOH(g). There are multiple competing views regarding the application of Hess' Law and bond energies.

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Some participants express confusion over the definitions and relationships between enthalpy changes, bond energies, and the states of matter involved in the reactions.

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Readers interested in thermodynamics, particularly those studying enthalpy changes and phase transitions in chemical reactions, may find this discussion relevant.

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NaOH(s) --> NaOH(g)

\Delta H^{\circ}_{diss} (O-O) = 251 kJ
\Delta H^{\circ}_{diss} (O-H) = 465 kJ
\Delta H^{\circ}_{diss} (H-H) = 435 kJ
\Delta H^{\circ}_{diss} (Na-O) = 255 kJ

\Delta H_{sol} = -46 KJ for NaOH_{(s)}

NaOH_{(s)} \rightarrow Na^{+}_{(aq)} + OH^{-}_{(aq)} \cdot\cdot\cdot\cdot\cdot\cdot\cdot\cdot\cdot\cdot\cdot\cdot\cdot\cdot\cdot\cdot\cdot\cdot\cdot\Delta H = -46 KJ

\Delta H^{\circ}_{f} = -427 KJ for NaOH_{(s)}

Na_{(s)} + \frac{1}{2}O_{2(g)} + \frac{1}{2}H_{2(g)} \rightarrow NaOH_{(s)} \cdot\cdot\cdot\cdot\cdot\cdot\cdot\cdot\cdot\cdot\Delta H = -427 KJ

I forgot one part:
Na_{(s)} \rightarrow Na_{(g)} \cdot\cdot\cdot\cdot\cdot \Delta H = 109 kJ

Predict \Delta H for NaOH_{(s)} \rightarrow NaOH_{(g)}


Because I am trying to find the enthalpy of one reaction, and i have other 'known' enthalpy reactions does this problem automatically turn into a Hess' Law type problem ? or is this still a bond energy/enthalpy reaction or just bond energy type problem ? Also i do not have a NaOH_{(g)} in any of my reaction so how can i go about computing the targeted enthalpy ?
 
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So does anyone know how to tackle this problem ?
 


Okay here is what i tried doing, I know there might be something wrong and such but please please please i beg you indicate my mistake this is my last question regarding Reaction heats. Next up Equilibrium lol ... anyways.. *ahem*...

Na_{(s)} \rightarrow Na_{(g)} \cdot\cdot\cdot\cdot\cdot \Delta H=109 KJ
This means:

Na_{(g)} + \frac{1}{2}O_{2(g)} + \frac{1}{2}H_{2(g)} \rightarrow NaOH_{(s)} \cdot\cdot\cdot\cdot\cdot\cdot\cdot\cdot\cdot\cdot \Delta H^{\circ}_{f} = -268 KJ

My question regarding the above question is when i convert Na(s)-->Na(g) does my product NaOH(s) become ---> NaOH(g) so that my target equation ends up NaOH(g) as a product ? or does it still remain a solid and my calculation or method is wrong and should be discarded because a better method is out there... so please help. I did another part it seems to make sense to change NaOH(s) ---> NaOH(g) because I am using the heat of dissociation and do those values mean to dissociate a given compound to its gaseous atoms or what ??. I know that those values are the same for any compound so does that also mean its the same values for the same compound but in a different state like with NaOH(s) and NaOH(g) ?

I converted NaOH(s) into NaOH(g) to show my method but still i need a better explanation so i can understand and not just from theorizing "making things happen" which i don't like to do :( I also know this is sublimation lol that's my last point. I got -268 KJ for the second equation because I am using bond energies or is this still not the correct method ? please help me.

NaOH_{(s)} \rightarrow Na_{(s)} + \frac{1}{2}O_{2(g)} + \frac{1}{2}H_{2(g)} \Delta H = 427 KJ
Na_{(g)} + \frac{1}{2}O_{2(g)} + \frac{1}{2}H_{2(g)} \rightarrow NaOH_{(g)} \Delta H = -268 KJ
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NaOH_{(s)} \rightarrow NaOH_{(g)} \Delta H = 159 KJ

You can do the cancellation yourself: Na, O2, and H2 get cancelled. This answer is correct on the back of my paper but can anyone suggest a better method ? of if this is somewhat the correct method then can anyone please clean up my explanation to make things clear ? Thanks a bunch. Now i go sleep ... ZZZzz
 


CAN somebody help me with this ?
 


Helooooooooooooooooooooooo ? Is there anyone in this forum ?
 

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