Predicting Future System State Without Time

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Predicting the future state of a system without considering time is deemed impossible, as time serves as a crucial measuring stick for future predictions. Most systems are inherently time-dependent, making it necessary to reference time to determine future outcomes. An analogy using the equation y=2x illustrates that one cannot calculate "y" without knowing "x," emphasizing the need for temporal context. Some discussions reference advanced concepts like the Wheeler-Dewitt equation, which suggests time may not be a factor in certain theoretical frameworks. Ultimately, the consensus leans towards the necessity of time in making accurate predictions about future states.
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Is it possible to predict the future state of a system without using time as a factor?
 
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I'm not sure exactly what you mean, but let me try an analogy and see if you think it fits: consider an equation such as y=2x. Is it possible to calculate "y" without knowing "x"? No.
 
If the time phys relation exist

If the time phys relations is exist. the progress is determind. as this serious , the time can determind in another.
 
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Is it possible to predict the future state of a system without using time as a factor?

no i wouldnt' imagine it would. because your using time as a measuring stick (the future) so any predictions on the future would be based on the extent of time that passes. unless it pretains to the status if nonexistant things (like the lotto numbers)
 
How do you define the "future" without referring to time?
 
The simple answer would be: it depends on whether the system is time-dependent, if it is as most systems are then no.

Interestingly, I am lead to believe that time 'disappears' from the Wheeler-Dewitt equation.
 
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