Prime factorization and real exponents

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the application of the prime factorization theorem to prime numbers raised to real number powers. Participants explore whether the unique factorization property holds in this broader context, particularly in relation to equations involving prime bases and real exponents.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions if the prime factorization theorem, which applies to integer powers, also applies to real number powers of primes.
  • Another participant asserts that prime numbers do not exist in the real numbers, as primes are defined within the context of rings, and all non-zero real numbers are units.
  • A later reply suggests that the powers of a prime form a continuous function, indicating that any real number greater than one can be expressed as a power of a prime, thus implying a different interpretation of the theorem's applicability.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the applicability of the prime factorization theorem to real exponents, with no consensus reached on the matter.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the definitions of prime numbers in different mathematical contexts and the implications of extending the theorem to real powers.

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Does the unique factorization theorem apply when prime numbers are raised to any real number power?
I know that the prime factorization theorem predicts that a prime number raised to an integer power will never be equal to another prime number raised to a different power. But does this apply to real number powers? For example, suppose there is a prime number raised to some real value, could it be equal to another prime number raised to a different real value?
 
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Not sure what you mean. But the answer is: there are no prime numbers in the reals. Prime elements are certain elements of a ring. They cannot be units. But every real number different from zero is a unit, hence no real primes. Of course you can solve any equation ##a^x=b^y##, but this has nothing to do with primes.
 
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Summary:: Does the unique factorization theorem apply when prime numbers are raised to any real number power?

I know that the prime factorization theorem predicts that a prime number raised to an integer power will never be equal to another prime number raised to a different power. But does this apply to real number powers? For example, suppose there is a prime number raised to some real value, could it be equal to another prime number raised to a different real value?

Yes, of course. In general, the powers of a prime form a continuous function ##p^x##, that takes every value from ##p^0 = 1## upwards.

Take any real number, ##y > 1##, and any prime ##p##, then:
$$p^{\frac{\ln y}{\ln p}} = y$$
In other words, ##y## can be expressed as a power of any prime.
 
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ok thanks for the reply
 

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