Principles of Physics by David Halliday, Robert Resnick, Jearl Walker

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The discussion centers on the differences in content between two editions of a physics textbook: "Principles of Physics: Extended, International Adaptation, 12th Edition" and "Principles Fundamentals of Physics: Extended, 12th Edition." Participants explore the marketing and availability of these editions in different regions, particularly the US and India.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that "Fundamentals" is marketed in the US and Canada, while "Principles" is marketed in other parts of the world.
  • One participant mentions that both books may have the same content but suggests that "Principles" is produced more cheaply, although this understanding is based on discussions from other sources and may be incorrect.
  • A participant with access to both editions claims that they are almost identical, except that "Fundamentals" includes additional problems at the end of each chapter, providing a specific example of the number of problems in chapter 2.
  • There is a question raised about why the discussion seems to have a focus on India, with some participants noting that many contributors to related discussions are from that region.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the content and structure of the two editions, with no consensus reached regarding the extent of their differences or similarities.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of confusion regarding the content and marketing of the textbooks, and the discussion relies on anecdotal evidence and personal experiences rather than definitive comparisons.

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What's the difference in content between the two textbooks? International Adaptation and local edition
Principles of Physics: Extended, 12th Edition
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The publisher is Wiley, and their website describes the various editions.
 
JKuo37 said:
Principles Fundamentals of Physics: Extended, 12th Edition
Principles of Physics: Extended, International Adaptation, 12th Edition
“Fundamentals” is marketed in the US, and maybe some other countries e.g. Canada. “Principles” is marketed in the rest of the world.

Hopefully someone who has seen both books can comment. My understanding, based on discussions like this one from Quora, is that the two books have the same content but “Principles” is produced more cheaply. (There is some confusion in that discussion, so my understanding may be incorrect.)

I used “Fundamentals” as a student in the 1970s and taught from it in the 1980s. I have not seen recent editions of “Fundamentals” and have never seen “Principles”.

When I use http://www.wiley.com/ and search for “halliday” I always get “Fundamentals” regardless of my location setting (didn’t try every possible setting).

When I use http://www.wileyindia.com/ and search for “halliday” I get “Principles” along with some locally-published books based on it (study guides, maybe?).
 
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jtbell said:
“Fundamentals” is marketed in the US, and maybe some other countries e.g. Canada. “Principles” is marketed in the rest of the world.

Hopefully someone who has seen both books can comment. My understanding, based on discussions like this one from Quora, is that the two books have the same content but “Principles” is produced more cheaply. (There is some confusion in that discussion, so my understanding may be incorrect.)

I used “Fundamentals” as a student in the 1970s and taught from it in the 1980s. I have not seen recent editions of “Fundamentals” and have never seen “Principles”.

When I use http://www.wiley.com/ and search for “halliday” I always get “Fundamentals” regardless of my location setting (didn’t try every possible setting).

When I use http://www.wileyindia.com/ and search for “halliday” I get “Principles” along with some locally-published books based on it (study guides, maybe?).
Why India in particular?
 
WWGD said:
Why India in particular?
Most of the posters in that Quora discussion seemed to be from India or nearby places.
 
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jtbell said:
Most of the posters in that Quora discussion seemed to be from India or nearby places.
Including Vijay from Bombay.
 
I have a print copy of 'Principles' and a PDF of 'Fundamentals' (both extended as well as the 12th edition) and from what I can see, they're almost the exact same, with the exception that 'Fundamentals' has the additional problems section on each chapter, whereas 'Principles' doesn't. For example, in chapter 2: motion along a straight line, 'Principles' has 70 problems and 'Fundamentals' has 109.
 
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