Probability (binomial Distro?)

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The discussion revolves around a probability problem involving a lot of 250 items, of which 15 are defective. The problem requires determining the probability of accepting the lot based on a sampling plan that allows for a sample of size 6 drawn without replacement, where acceptance is contingent on having at most one defective item in the sample.

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  • Participants explore different methods for calculating the probability of acceptance, including a combinatorial approach and a binomial approximation. Some question the appropriateness of the binomial distribution due to the changing probabilities as items are drawn without replacement.

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Participants are actively discussing the problem, with some suggesting the use of the hypergeometric distribution as the appropriate model. There is recognition of the limitations of the binomial approximation in this context, and a comparison of methods is being considered.

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There is an acknowledgment of the complexities introduced by sampling without replacement, which affects the probability calculations. Participants are also referencing external resources for further clarification on the distributions involved.

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Hi Everyone, I've been having some trouble with this problem:

A lot of 250 items that contains 15 defective items is subject to an acceptance sampling plan that calls for a smple of size 6 to be drawn(without replacement). the lot is accepted if the sample contains, at most, one defective item. find the probability that the lot is accepted.


The way I thought to do it was:
total number of samples that would be able to pass/total number of sample possible = (250-14)C6 / 250C6.

A friend of mine said that it should be done like this: (6c0) * 0.06^0 * (0.94)^6 + 6c1 * (0.06^1) * (0.94)^5, and something about it being a binomial distribution, but I don't know why/what he's saying.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
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note the binomial assumes a constant probability of success (failure). As p will effectively change as failed items are removed from the universe without replacement it is not exactly right but will be very close.

see binomial distribution http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binomial_distribution
P(k success in n trials with average probability p) = f(n,k,p)

here the binomial approximation is
p = 15/250, failure rate
n = 6, samples
k = 0 or 1 observed failures

then the probability that the sample is accepted is
P(lot failures <=1) = f(0,6,p) + f(1,6,p)

note
f(0,6,p) is just the proability of getting no failures from 6 selected items with constant p
f(1,6,p) is just the proability of getting 1 failure from 6 selected items with constant p

I would calculate the probabilties by hand assuming no replacement and compare against the binomial case
 
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probabilityst said:
Hi Everyone, I've been having some trouble with this problem:

A lot of 250 items that contains 15 defective items is subject to an acceptance sampling plan that calls for a smple of size 6 to be drawn(without replacement). the lot is accepted if the sample contains, at most, one defective item. find the probability that the lot is accepted.


The way I thought to do it was:
total number of samples that would be able to pass/total number of sample possible = (250-14)C6 / 250C6.

A friend of mine said that it should be done like this: (6c0) * 0.06^0 * (0.94)^6 + 6c1 * (0.06^1) * (0.94)^5, and something about it being a binomial distribution, but I don't know why/what he's saying.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

The appropriate distribution is the hypergeometric. See, for example,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypergeometric_distribution
 
nice point, couldn't remember the distribution
 

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