Probability (density function)

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The problem involves finding the probability density function of the x-coordinate of a point selected uniformly from a specific region defined by the inequality |x| + |y| <= 1, which describes a diamond shape in the Cartesian plane.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the definition of the probability density function and the implications of the region's shape. There are attempts to derive the function f(x,y) and to understand the integration process involved. Questions arise regarding the correct constant for f(x,y) and the interpretation of the area of the diamond.

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Some participants have offered corrections regarding the area of the diamond and the implications for the probability density function. There is ongoing exploration of piecewise definitions for f_X(x) based on the sign of x, and some participants express confusion about the integration limits and the resulting functions.

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Participants are grappling with the modulus signs in the context of integration and the implications of the area of the diamond shape on the probability density function. There is acknowledgment of the need to clarify the area calculation to proceed correctly.

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A point is selected at random and uniformly from the region

R = {(x,y): |x| + |y| <= 1 }

Find the probability density function of the x-coordinate of the point selected at random.



By definition f(x) = the integral of f(x,y) over all y values.

after this I'm pretty much stuck. does f(x,y) = 1/4? I mean the definition is simple I think it's just me not knowing how to deal with the modulus signs.

(Is the region a square(diamond) intersecting at (0,1)(1,0)(-1,0)(0,-1))

Any help always appreciated.

Thanks.
 
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Your diamond is right. You are right that [tex]f_{XY}(x,y)[/tex] is constant, but you have the wrong constant, because the area of that diamond is not 4.

You could split the diamond into two halves, the case where x>0 and the case where x<0. Then you can obtain equations for the boundary lines without using absolute value. Your [tex]f_X(x)[/tex] could then be piecewise defined.

When you are done, you could try to combine the piecewise defined [tex]f_X(x)[/tex] into one formula using absolute value, if you want, or simply leave it piecewise defined.
 
f(x,y) = 1 (was looking at the diamond thinking it had side lengths of 2 :S, hope this is right now)

as for the integrals I am still having trouble...

for x > 0

f(x) = integral(from x-1 to -x+1) of 1 dyfor x < 0

f(x) = integral(from -x-1 to x+1) of 1 dy

are these even remotely correct?

I end up with 2-2x for x>0
and 2+2x for x<0

which if i combined them i get 2(1-|x|)

the answer in the book is just 1-1|x|... when i combine them do i drop the 2 :P
 
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Your f(x,y) is still wrong. What is the area of that diamond? When you fix it, you will get what they got.
 
Thanks for the help Billy! Once i fixed up f(x,y) (dont ask me why it took me so long to realize that the area wasn't 1 :S) it all worked out!

Thanks again!
 

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