Probability - Getting joint distribution?

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The discussion revolves around finding the joint distribution of two independent and identically distributed (i.i.d.) random variables, X1 and X2. The original poster seeks to understand how to derive the joint cumulative distribution function (CDF) for these variables, particularly in the context of normal distributions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between joint and marginal distributions, noting that independence allows for the joint CDF to be expressed as the product of the marginal CDFs. Questions arise regarding the specific distributions of the variables and the notation used.

Discussion Status

The conversation has progressed with some participants providing insights into the relationship between joint and marginal distributions. However, the original poster indicates that the guidance received does not fully address their specific question regarding a change of variables and calculations related to the bivariate normal distribution.

Contextual Notes

The original poster mentions that X1 and X2 are normally distributed with mean 0 and variance 1, and they are looking to derive a joint distribution for transformed variables, Z1 and Z2, which introduces additional complexity to the problem.

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Homework Statement



I have 2 variables that are both i.i.d. X1 and X2.
i.i.d means they both have the same distribution and are independent of each other.

My question is, how do i get the joint distribution:
Fx1,x2(x1,x2) of these variables??

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no idea where to start
 
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What other information do you have.

Indepence tells you that

Fx1,x2(x1,x2) = Fx1(x1) * Fx2(x2)

So the joint CDF is the product of the marginal CDF's.Do you have the joint PMF or PDF ?
 
Actually I was just generalizing an assignment question, i needed this to start the question entirely. x1,x2 are both N~(0,1).

Thanks for your answer!
 
I am not familiar with the notation N~(0,1).

I assume you mean normal distributions with mean of 0 and variance of 1.

You can find the formula for the joint PDF and then find the marginal PDF for x1 and then differentiate to get Fx1(x1).
 
yes that's what i meant, normal with mean 0 with variance 1.
 
Well get your joint pdf and then differentiate it to get the CDF Fx1,x2(x1,x3)

Look for the formula for a bivariate Gaussian random variable.

p =0 [ since we have independence ]
 
Thanks for your help, but its not actually what my question is looking for. This is the question.

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Now i need to get Fz1,z2(z1, z2) so i could do a change of variable and use that formula with the jacobian to get the bivariate normal.
Kinda got stuck in some of the calculations though, I am not sure if I am doing it right. The change of Variable for my Y is quite large.
 

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