Probability of Guesser Scoring 100% on Midvale School Tests

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The problem involves determining the probability that a Guesser at Midvale School scores 100% on a test consisting of yes/no questions. The context is set within a scenario where Guessers have a 50% chance of answering each question correctly, while Swots answer all questions correctly. The original poster is tasked with finding the probability for a Guesser scoring full marks based on an unknown number of questions, n.

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  • Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to apply the binomial probability formula but expresses confusion regarding the parameters involved, particularly the unknown n. Some participants question the interpretation of the binomial coefficient used in the probability calculation, suggesting a need to clarify what scoring 100% entails.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering suggestions and re-evaluating the original poster's approach. There is a recognition of the need to correctly interpret the probability function and the implications of the number of questions on the outcome. The discussion is moving towards a clearer understanding of how to calculate the probability.

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There is a specific constraint mentioned regarding the requirement for the probability of a Guesser scoring full marks to be less than 0.5%, which will influence the determination of the number of questions, n.

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Homework Statement


Midvale School for the Gifted has two types of students: Guessers and Swots. All
Midvale tests consist of sets of questions with yes/no answers. Guessers will simply
answer yes or no to each question as the mood takes them, so they have probability
0.5 of getting each question correct. Swots, on the other hand, will certainly get
every question correct with probability 1. Dr Ramble Fluster is the Chief Examiner
at Midvale. She worries about her test results. Clearly, all Swots will get 100% on
every test. However, it is possible that a Guesser might get 100% just by chance.
Ramble's job is to decide how many questions to set in each test to be fairly certain
that she will be able to give the correct grade (G or S) to each student.

(b) What is the probability that a Guesser scores 100% on a test with n questions?


Homework Equations


Binomial function


The Attempt at a Solution


X~Bin(n,0.5)

P(X=x)= nCx * p^x * (1-p)^(n-x)

P(X=100) = nC100 * 0.5^100 * 0.5^(n-100)

here is where I got stuck. Since the question is asking us to solve the probability equation (P(X=x)), but since n is an unknown I don't know how to go further into solving this equation, because (I presume) there will be 2 unknown parameters: P and n.

can someone point me where I get wrong, or give me an idea on how to solve this?
thanks
 
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nC100?? Think about what that means. You aren't choosing 100 percentage points from n percentage points. Scoring 100% means you got all n questions right. Shouldn't the probability involve nCn?
 
Dick said:
nC100?? Think about what that means. You aren't choosing 100 percentage points from n percentage points. Scoring 100% means you got all n questions right. Shouldn't the probability involve nCn?

ar! ok, I've just reattempt this question from what I understand in your suggestion. Which doesn't seems to be correct though, need more help thanks.

reattempts are as follows:

fx(x)= p(X=x) = nCx * p^x * (1-p)^n-x

let x = n

p(X=n) = nCn * p ^ n * (1-p)^n-n
= 1 * 0.5^n * 0.5^0
= 0.5^n
 
Philip Wong said:
ar! ok, I've just reattempt this question from what I understand in your suggestion. Which doesn't seems to be correct though, need more help thanks.

reattempts are as follows:

fx(x)= p(X=x) = nCx * p^x * (1-p)^n-x

let x = n

p(X=n) = nCn * p ^ n * (1-p)^n-n
= 1 * 0.5^n * 0.5^0
= 0.5^n

That seems ok to me. E.g. if there are two questions P=(1/4)=(0.5)^2. You have to get the first question right AND the second question right - both with probability 1/2.
 
Dick said:
That seems ok to me. E.g. if there are two questions P=(1/4)=(0.5)^2. You have to get the first question right AND the second question right - both with probability 1/2.

ah! looks light you are right. because I just read the next part of the question "Ramble wishes to select the number of questions, n, so that there is less than 0.5% chance that a Guesser gets full marks. What is the lowest value of n that will guarantee this?"

so I will just substitute in the numbers and found out what n is.

thanks a lot for your help!
 
You're welcome. You could solve it systematically using a log. But there's nothing wrong with substituting either.
 

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