Probability of lone high school student publication?

Click For Summary

Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the potential for a high school student, Thomas Evans, to publish his theoretical physics papers in peer-reviewed journals despite lacking formal academic credentials. The conversation explores the challenges and considerations involved in academic publishing, particularly for someone outside the traditional academic pathway.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation
  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • Thomas expresses his background in self-study of physics and mathematics, mentioning two completed papers on theoretical topics.
  • Some participants question Thomas's readiness for publication, suggesting he may lack the necessary knowledge to contribute original work.
  • There are suggestions for Thomas to seek feedback from active physicists or utilize platforms like the Physics archive for critique.
  • Participants inquire about Thomas's mathematical background and the specific physics literature he has engaged with.
  • Thomas provides a detailed account of his mathematical and physics studies, indicating familiarity with advanced topics and various texts.
  • One participant encourages Thomas to submit his papers regardless of his current status, while another suggests that the thread may not be suitable for the forum.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally express skepticism about the likelihood of successful publication for a high school student, with some emphasizing the importance of critical feedback from experienced physicists. However, there is no consensus on whether Thomas should submit his papers or how he should proceed.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the importance of understanding the academic publishing process and the potential need for mentorship or guidance from established physicists. There are unresolved questions about the adequacy of Thomas's work and the appropriateness of his approach to publication.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to high school students considering independent research, individuals curious about the academic publishing process, and those exploring the intersection of self-study and formal academic pathways in physics and mathematics.

OKBHS
Hello,

My name is Thomas Evans, I am a high school student in the East Coast of the USA. I have been independently teaching myself along with some assistance from my grandparents (both physicists) physics and mathematics since the 7th grade. I have written (completed) two papers recently on theoretical physics, one concerning the information paradox and another regarding incorporating the concept of asymptotic safety into a generalized facet of string theory/LQG's mathematical formalism. I was wondering if anyone on this site with a history of publication in peer-reviewed journals could explain to me whether it would be worth submitting these articles to a journal, in lieu of my lack of formal academic credentials/ a voucher from a practicing physicist. Thanks and a happy new year.
 
Physics news on Phys.org
You almost certainly lack the knowledge of physics and mathematics required to make an original contribution to the literature. Have you ever read any academic journals? Can you understand them?

What is your background in mathematics?
 
You did mention that your grandparents are physicists. Perhaps they know an active physicist who could review your work and provide some critique. There is also the Physics archive where grad students and profs prepublish articles but my suspicion is that you don't want to be scooped but you could pose questions there and see what you get back.

Check this article in wikipedia on the archive: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ArXiv
 
OKBHS said:
Hello,

My name is Thomas Evans, I am a high school student in the East Coast of the USA. I have been independently teaching myself along with some assistance from my grandparents (both physicists) physics and mathematics since the 7th grade. I have written (completed) two papers recently on theoretical physics, one concerning the information paradox and another regarding incorporating the concept of asymptotic safety into a generalized facet of string theory/LQG's mathematical formalism. I was wondering if anyone on this site with a history of publication in peer-reviewed journals could explain to me whether it would be worth submitting these articles to a journal, in lieu of my lack of formal academic credentials/ a voucher from a practicing physicist. Thanks and a happy new year.

What journals have you been reading that make you sure you're up to date with the current state of your chosen area?

There is also the Physics archive where grad students and profs prepublish articles but my suspicion is that you don't want to be scooped but you could pose questions there and see what you get back.

Check this article in wikipedia on the archive: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ArXiv

That's not how the ArXiv works. The Arxiv is a pre-print server where people post publications that are under review for publication in a peer-review journal. It's not, as you may have accidentally posed it, a place to simply pose questions like a forum such as this.
 
How much math do you know?? What physics books did you read?

If you are a high school student, then your paper is almost certainly not good enough to publish. I would be very critical of your own paper. Find a physicist who will point out the mistakes and let him review it (if somebody is willing). If it's ok, then perhaps you can send it for peer-review.

Your parents are physicists, don't they know somebody you can talk to??
 
micromass: My grandparents are retired physicists. They received their PhD's in the mid 1960s in experimental material physics and chemical physics, respectively. Their institutional contacts are either dead or forgotten, believe me I have asked. I know more math than I do physics, actually. Specifically I would say that I would feel comfortable with anything in algebraic geometry, number theory, group theory up to a first/second year graduate level. I've worked through most of the undergraduate level mathematics/physics courses on MIT's OCW, utilizing the recommended/required texts when necessary or available. I'm currently working on a number of first/second year graduate math/physics courses on OCW also. For Christmas I received Elements of string cosmology by Gasperini which I am currently working through. I know enough physics to have gotten through vol. 1 of Polchinski, and am also working on the first chapters of vol. 2 in addition to Gasperini's text. Other physics texts I have read in the past include select chapters of Bohm's quantum theory, Joos theoretical physics (8th grade), Feynman and Hibbs, Feynman lectures vol. 3, clark and rose, Einstein's collected works, Gravitation, EBH (Taylor and Wheeler), amongst others.

I read articles on the ArXiv regularly, and I have a good understanding of anything concerning branes, spinors, twistor theory, or the formal aspects of loop quantum gravity. Again, I read more articles in mathematics on the ArXiv then I do in physics, and have a much stronger basis within that field.

I read whatever papers I can get for free off of Springer, from journals such as GERG, etc. I've read a number of articles from CQG as well. Generally I just stick to the ArXiv however, at least for physics. Thanks for all the very quick replies.
 
You can always try to submit papers. Good luck to you and keep up your studies. This thread is not suitable for this forum.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 26 ·
Replies
26
Views
5K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
3K
Replies
4
Views
3K
  • · Replies 21 ·
Replies
21
Views
4K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
5K
  • · Replies 15 ·
Replies
15
Views
3K
  • · Replies 27 ·
Replies
27
Views
3K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
4K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
4K