Probability of receiving bonus

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The discussion revolves around calculating probabilities related to bonuses received by male and female workers, as well as the selection of doctors and engineers from a group. The participants are exploring different approaches to probability calculations, particularly focusing on scenarios involving selections without replacement.

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  • Participants are attempting to calculate probabilities based on different scenarios, including male and female workers receiving bonuses and the selection of doctors from a group. There are questions about the validity of using certain probabilities and the implications of selecting without replacement.

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Some participants are questioning the assumptions made in the calculations, particularly regarding the total number of workers and the probabilities used. There is acknowledgment of the complexity of the problem, with some noting that certain aspects of the problem may not be solvable due to missing information.

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There are constraints regarding the information provided, such as the number of workers earning exactly RM2000.00, which affects the calculations. Additionally, participants are exploring the implications of order in probability calculations and the potential for exceeding a total probability of 1.

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please refer to the photo, can i redo the question in this way ?

P( male receive, female not receive) +P( female receive , male not receive)

( (10/1000)x (170/999) ) + ( (470/1000)x (260/999) ) = 0.1393

this is based on 'without replacement' is my concept wrong?



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You are given that, of 360 male workers, "100 earn less than RM2000.00 a month".
In your calculation for b, you use a probability of .10. That would be 100/10000, the probability that a randomly chosen worker is male and earns less than RM2000.00 a month. But you are told that a male and female worker are chosen so you should not include the probability a worker chosen is male. The probability the male worker earns less than RM2000.00 a month is 100/360, not 100/1000.
 
HallsofIvy said:
You are given that, of 360 male workers, "100 earn less than RM2000.00 a month".
In your calculation for b, you use a probability of .10. That would be 100/10000, the probability that a randomly chosen worker is male and earns less than RM2000.00 a month. But you are told that a male and female worker are chosen so you should not include the probability a worker chosen is male. The probability the male worker earns less than RM2000.00 a month is 100/360, not 100/1000.

so the ans would be ( (260/350) x (470/640)) + ( (100/360) x (170/640 )) = 0.604 ?
 
Yes.

As a curiosity, the problem as stated is not solvable as the workers earning exactly 2000.00 are included in the group earning a month's salary as bonus and thus will also get a 2000.00 bonus. We are not given the number of such workers.
 
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here's another part of this question,

find the probability of the three doctors selected . the correct working would be (20C3 X15C1)/35C4 = 0.327

can i do in this way? P(DDDE) + P(EDDD) + P(DEDD) +P(DDED) =
( (20/35) x (19/34) x (18/35) x (15/32) ) x 4 = 0.327

Is my concept wrong? D=doctor E=engineer
 
Orodruin said:
Yes.

As a curiosity, the problem as stated is not solvable as the workers earning exactly 2000.00 are included in the group earning a month's salary as bonus and thus will also get a 2000.00 bonus. We are not given the number of such workers.

by doing this ( (260/350) x (470/640)) + ( (100/360) x (170/640 )) = 0.604 ,
i assume that P(male receiving bonus, girl not receiving bonus) + P(girl receiving bonus , boy not receiving bonus)

why there's also probability that girls picked first and not receiving bonus , then male receiving bonus is picked after this for P(male receiving bonus, girl not receiving bonus) ? and the same thing goes to P(girl receiving bonus , boy not receiving bonus) ... why the sequence is not important ?


why can't i do in this way? ( (260/350) x (470/640)x2) + ( (100/360) x (170/640 )x2) , but by doing so my ans is more than 1 , which is indeed not correct.
 

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