Problem about uniformed charged ring and a charge in the center

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The discussion centers on a physics problem involving a uniformly charged ring with a charge Q = -710 nC and a central charge q = +350 nC. An electron projected from infinity comes to a halt at a point 5.0 m from the center of the ring. The correct initial speed of the electron is determined to be approximately 1.4 x 107 m/s, aligning with option (a). Participants clarified the roles of the charges and corrected initial misunderstandings regarding their values.

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Homework Statement


A charge Q = - 710 nC is uniformly distributed on a ring of 2.4 m radius. A charge q = + 350 nC is placed at the center of the ring. Points A and B are located on the axis of the ring, as shown. In Figure below, an electron is projected along the axis of the ring from infinity. The electron reaches and comes to a momentary halt at a point on the axis which is 5.0 m from the center of the ring. The initial speed of the electron at infinity is closest to:
http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/3900/q6g1.jpg

a) 1.4*10^7 m/s
b) 9.1*10^6 m/s
c) 6.9*10^6 m/s
d) 4.6*10^6 m/s
e)2.3*10^6 m/s

Homework Equations


U=ke*q1q2/r1r2
V=ke*Q/sqrt(x^2+a^2)
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The Attempt at a Solution


1/2 mv^2=ke*q1q2/r12+ke*Q*qe/sqrt(x^2+a^2)

plug in number, solve for v and i don't find any answer similar with my result, is there something wrong with my solution ?
 
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In the problem what is the role of point A and B?
 
rl.bhat said:
In the problem what is the role of point A and B?

i believe it is use for the next question
 
I have got 1.58*107, what is somewhat similar to first choice. Your formulas look reasonable. My calculations are:

Ring radius 2.4 m
distance from center to halt point 5 m
distance from ring to halt point 5.5 m
q (charge at center) -7.10E-07 C
Q (charge at ring) 3.50E-07 C
Electron charge -1.60E-19 C
Electron mass 9.11E-31 kg
Vacuum permittivity 8.85E-12 C^2 N^−1 m^−2
Potential energy from the ring -9.09E-17 Dj
Potential energy from the central change 2.04E-16 Dj
Total potential energy 1.14E-16 Dj
Velocity 1.58E+07 m/s
 
edgerandy said:

The Attempt at a Solution


1/2 mv^2=ke*q1q2/r12+ke*Q*qe/sqrt(x^2+a^2)

By q1q2 do you mean q*qe ?
 
Privalov said:
I have got 1.58*107, what is somewhat similar to first choice. Your formulas look reasonable. My calculations are:

Ring radius 2.4 m
distance from center to halt point 5 m
distance from ring to halt point 5.5 m
q (charge at center) -7.10E-07 C
Q (charge at ring) 3.50E-07 C
Electron charge -1.60E-19 C
Electron mass 9.11E-31 kg
Vacuum permittivity 8.85E-12 C^2 N^−1 m^−2
Potential energy from the ring -9.09E-17 Dj
Potential energy from the central change 2.04E-16 Dj
Total potential energy 1.14E-16 Dj
Velocity 1.58E+07 m/s

i am very appreciate ur help, it is just i did not have the result like u
there is a little bit problem with ur solution, that is q (charge at center) is 3.50e-07 C and Q(charge at ring) is -7.10e-07 C, not other way around
 
edgerandy said:
q (charge at center) is 3.50e-07 C and Q(charge at ring) is -7.10e-07 C, not other way around

My mistake. The right answer is choice A then.

Ring radius 2.4 m
distance from center to halt point 5 m
distance from ring to halt point 5.5 m
q (charge at center) 3.50E-07 C
Q (charge at ring) -7.10E-07 C
Electron charge -1.60E-19 C
Electron mass 9.11E-31 kg
Vacuum permittivity 8.85E-12 C^2 N^−1 m^−2
Potential energy from the ring 1.84E-16 Dj
Potential energy from the central change -1.01E-16 Dj
Total potential energy 8.35E-17 Dj
Velocity 1.4E+07 m/s
 

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