Problem simplifying the solution of an ODE.

  • Thread starter Thread starter -Dragoon-
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Ode Simplifying
Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around the simplification of a solution to an ordinary differential equation (ODE) related to the underdamped oscillator, specifically the transition from a sum of exponential and trigonometric functions to a single term involving a phase shift.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to understand the derivation of the simplified form of the solution and expresses confusion about the omitted steps in the transition. Some participants suggest using trigonometric identities to clarify the relationship between the terms.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring the mathematical reasoning behind the simplification, with some providing insights into the necessary conditions for the transformation. There is an acknowledgment of the standard nature of the step, but no consensus on the clarity of the omitted details.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of the need for certain conditions to hold true for the simplification to be valid, specifically regarding the relationship between the coefficients involved in the trigonometric functions.

-Dragoon-
Messages
308
Reaction score
7
So, I was following the derivation in my physics book of:
[itex]x(t) = c_1e^-(\frac{\gamma t}{2})\cos(\omega_d t)+c_2e^-(\frac{\gamma t}{2})\sin(\omega_d t)[/itex]

Until they simply get to this in one step:
[itex]Ae^-(\frac{\gamma t}{2})\cos(\omega_d t + \phi)[/itex]

I've tried reading many other sources for this derivation of the underdamped oscillator, and I follow up until this last critical step and they don't hint at the omitted steps.
 
Physics news on Phys.org
That's a pretty standard step. Use the identity cos(A+ B)= cos(A)cos(B)- sin(A)sin(B).

Comparing that to [itex]\alpha cos(\theta)+ \beta sin(\theta)[/itex]
([itex]\alpha= c_1e^{-\gamma t/2}[/itex], [itex]\beta= c_2e^{-\gamma t/2}[/itex] and [itex]\theta= \omega_d t[/itex].)
We need [itex]cos(A)= \alpha[/itex] and [itex]sin(A)= \beta[/itex]. Of course, that is not possible unless [itex]\alpha^2+ \beta^2= 1[/itex]. If that is not true, then we multiply and divide by [itex]\alpha^2+ \beta^2[/itex]:
[tex](\alpha^2+ \beta^2)\left(\frac{\alpha}{\alpha^2+ \beta^2}cos(\theta)+ \frac{\beta}{\alpha^2+ \beta^2}sin(\theta)\right)[/tex]
 
I think Halls meant$$
\sqrt{\alpha^2+ \beta^2}\left(\frac{\alpha}{\sqrt{\alpha^2+ \beta^2}}cos(\theta)+ \frac{\beta}{\sqrt{\alpha^2+ \beta^2}}sin(\theta)\right)$$
 
Got it, thanks everyone.
 

Similar threads

Replies
7
Views
1K
  • · Replies 17 ·
Replies
17
Views
3K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
3K
Replies
4
Views
2K
Replies
8
Views
1K
Replies
1
Views
2K
Replies
2
Views
2K