Problem understanding the differential form of the circulation law

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The discussion centers on understanding the differential form of the circulation law, specifically the curl of a vector field as defined by the equation ∇×F = i (∂Fz/∂y - ∂Fy/∂z) + j(∂Fx/∂z - ∂Fx/∂x) + k(∂Fy/∂x - ∂Fx/∂y). A participant questions the implications of the condition n.(∇×F) = 0 for n = i, j, k, and whether it conclusively leads to ∇×F = 0. The consensus is that the conditions ∂Fz/∂y = ∂Fy/∂z, ∂Fx/∂z = ∂Fx/∂x, and ∂Fy/∂x = ∂Fx/∂y indeed imply that ∇×F = 0, confirming the equivalence of these statements.

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I've encountered a problem in learning about the curl of a vector field.
(My learning material is the "Div, Grad, Curl and all that" from H.M. Shey.)


Introduction to problem:

The curl of a field F is defined as:
∇×F = i (∂Fz/∂y - ∂Fy/∂z) + j(∂Fx/∂z - ∂Fx/∂x) + k(∂Fy/∂x - ∂Fx/∂y)

He claims the following:
If we take:
n.(∇xF) for n = i, j, k
and they all equal 0 that we can conclude that ∇xF = 0 generally.

Is it not that we can only conclude that:
∂Fz/∂y = ∂Fy/∂z
∂Fx/∂z = ∂Fx/∂x and
∂Fy/∂x = ∂Fx/∂y

Or does this conclusion imply the following somehow?

Thanks .)
 
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welcome to pf!

hi havarija! welcome to pf! :smile:

∂Fz/∂y = ∂Fy/∂z
∂Fx/∂z = ∂Fx/∂x and
∂Fy/∂x = ∂Fx/∂y

is the same as ∇xF = 0 :wink:

(and, for any vector V, if n.V = 0 for n = i, j, k then V must be 0 !)
 


Now it seems like a ridiculous question :D

Silly me. But now at least I joined the forum :)
 
Welcome! I love ridiculous questions- I can actually answer some of them!
 
havarija said:
The curl of a field F is defined as:
∇×F = i (∂Fz/∂y - ∂Fy/∂z) + j(∂Fx/∂z - ∂Fx/∂x) + k(∂Fy/∂x - ∂Fx/∂y)

if youre reviewing it may be helpful to consider the following definition of curl component:

curlF\cdot u=\lim_{A(C)\to0}\frac{1}{A(C)} \oint_C F\cdot dr where C is a closed loop, A(C) is the area of the loop, vector field F and unit vector u. this is the definition of the u-component of curl.
 
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