Problem with basic doppler effect question

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The discussion centers on calculating the frequency heard by a listener when a sound source approaches at 0.9 times the speed of sound. The correct formula to use is f = f0 (v / (v - vs)), where f0 is the stationary frequency (1 kHz), v is the speed of sound (343 m/s), and vs is the speed of the source. The correct calculation yields an apparent frequency of 10,000 Hz, highlighting the importance of using the correct signs for the velocities in the Doppler effect formula.

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Homework Statement


The source of a 1 kilohertz sound is getting closer to the listener at a speed of .9 times the speed of sound. What frequency does the listener hear?



Homework Equations


fl = ((v-vs) / (v + vl))fs



The Attempt at a Solution


((343+343(.9)) / 343)*1000=1900 Hz
this is the wrong answer, what did I do wrong? it's supposed to be 10,000 Hz
 
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Correct formula:
f = \frac{c\ +\ v_{r}}{c\ +\ v_{s}} \cdot f_{0}

In your problem the source is getting closer, so v_{s} is negative.

As you didn't miss that, your error is in the formula. Use the one above.

You also SUMMED values that you should have SUBTRACTED.

Remember:

v_{r} is the velocity of the receiver relative to the medium; positive if the receiver is moving towards the source;

v_{s} is the velocity of the source relative to the medium; positive if the source is moving away from the receiver;
 
PsychonautQQ said:

Homework Statement


The source of a 1 kilohertz sound is getting closer to the listener at a speed of .9 times the speed of sound. What frequency does the listener hear?

Homework Equations


fl = ((v-vs) / (v + vl))fs

The Attempt at a Solution


((343+343(.9)) / 343)*1000=1900 Hz
this is the wrong answer, what did I do wrong? it's supposed to be 10,000 Hz

Use this equation : ##f = f_0( \frac{v}{v ± v_s} )##

Where ##f## is the stationary frequency. ##f_2## is the apparent frequency detected. ##v## is the speed of sound in air and ##v_s## is the speed of the source.

Since the source is moving closer to your listener, you want to use ##v - v_s## ( Doppler effect ). Don't forget to convert kHz to Hz otherwise this won't work!

I got ##f = 10000 Hz##.
 

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