Problem with Bernoulli's equation

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving Bernoulli's equation, specifically focusing on part (b) of the problem. Participants are analyzing the relationship between variables in the context of fluid dynamics and kinematics.

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Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the equality of distance equations and consider the implications of squaring both sides to simplify the problem. There is uncertainty about how to apply the quadratic equation to the resulting expression.

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Some participants have offered guidance on manipulating the equations and suggested moving terms to form a standard quadratic equation. However, there is still some uncertainty regarding the application of these methods to solve for the variable y1'.

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Participants mention the presence of constants in the equation and express uncertainty about the correctness of the physics formula being used. There is a reliance on visual aids, such as diagrams, which are not included in the text.

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Hey everyone,

I'm only having trouble with part (b) of this problem. I attached a picture of the problem and its diagram.

(2)

x=vt
the x(t) kinematics equations
Bernoulli's equation

(3)

I set the equations for distance as equal:

2√(y1(y2-y1))=2√(y1'(y2-y1'))

But I don't think this can be solved for y1'. I also have a feeling that I may have to use the quadratic equation but I'm not sure exactly how.

Thanks for the help.
 

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mathematically you should just be able to distribute the y1 through the parenthesis, then get rid of the radical(provided that is what that symbol is), then solve the quadratic problem. but I cannot tell you if your physics formula is correct. I've not worked with bernoullis other than conceptual problems.
 
Loopas said:
(1)

Hey everyone,

I'm only having trouble with part (b) of this problem. I attached a picture of the problem and its diagram.

(2)

x=vt
the x(t) kinematics equations
Bernoulli's equation

(3)

I set the equations for distance as equal:

2√(y1(y2-y1))=2√(y1'(y2-y1'))

But I don't think this can be solved for y1'. I also have a feeling that I may have to use the quadratic equation but I'm not sure exactly how.

Thanks for the help.

The leading 2's cancel on each side. Then square each side. Should make life simpler for you.
 
That simplifies to:

y1y2-y1^2=y1'y2-y1'^2

Now here is where I'm stuck. I'm not sure how to use this with the quadratic equation or solve for y1'.
 
Well, everything but y1' are constants. Move everything to one side and sort it into the standard form of a quadratic.
 
Found the answer, thanks for the help!
 

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