Projectile and relative motion help

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The problem involves a boy standing on a moving railroad car who throws a ball straight upwards. The car is accelerating at 1 m/s², and the ball is thrown with an initial velocity of 9.8 m/s. The question seeks to determine how far behind the boy the ball will land on the car.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of basic equations of motion and relative velocity, noting difficulties due to the lack of the car's speed. There are attempts to calculate the time of flight and the distance traveled by the car during that time.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on using the equations of motion and suggested that the speed of the car could be represented as a variable. There is an indication that the discussion is moving towards clarifying the relationship between the ball's motion and the car's motion.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the initial speed of the car, which is not provided, and how it affects the calculations. There is an emphasis on understanding the setup and the implications of the car's acceleration on the ball's trajectory.

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Homework Statement



A boy is standing on a long railroad car throws a ball straight upwards.The car is moving on a horizontal road with an accelaration of 1m/s^2. and the projection velocity is 9.8m/s.How far behind the boy will the ball fall on the car.

Homework Equations


Not entirely sure what to use but i tried using the basic equations of motions and relative velocity but without an actual velocity for the rail car i found it really hard

The Attempt at a Solution



I fist used the basic V=U+at and found the time taken to go up.

Hence time taken to come down will be 2t.In this same the car should have traveled a certain distance.Now this is where I am stuck since i only have the acceleration not the speed of the car D:

I juggled around but couldn't get the proper answer which was 2 meters

Any help would be much appreciated!
 
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Hey thanks for the reply ;D

I fist used the basic V=U+at and found the time taken to go up.

Hence time taken to come down will be 2t.In this same the car should have traveled a certain distance.Now this is where I am stuck since i only have the acceleration not the speed of the car D:
 
Hey Torpedo007! :smile:
Torpedo007 said:
I fist used the basic V=U+at and found the time taken to go up.

Hence time taken to come down will be 2t.

(btw, you could have used V = -U and found the total time, or 0 = Ut + at2/2 :wink:)
In this same the car should have traveled a certain distance.Now this is where I am stuck since i only have the acceleration not the speed of the car D:

Call the speed of the car c, put it in the x equation, and you should find it cancels at the end. :wink:
 
tiny-tim said:
Call the speed of the car c, put it in the x equation, and you should find it cancels at the end. :wink:

Sorry to be a bother but can you just elaborate a bit more please , i don't understand D:
 
The boy has initial speed c0, and acceleration 1.

The ball has initial distance x = 0 and initial horizontal speed vx,0 = c0.

So when the ball lands, where is the ball, and where is the boy?
 
tiny-tim said:
The boy has initial speed c0, and acceleration 1.

The ball has initial distance x = 0 and initial horizontal speed vx,0 = c0.

So when the ball lands, where is the ball, and where is the boy?

Ah i think i finally i got it ;D thanks a load
 

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