Projectile Motion Homework: Calculating Wall Height with Initial Angle and Speed

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The discussion revolves around a projectile motion problem where a ball is projected at an angle of 37 degrees with an initial speed of 25 ft/s. The goal is to determine the height of a wall that the ball hits while traveling horizontally.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of vertical and horizontal components of velocity and question how to determine the time of flight without horizontal displacement information. There are inquiries about the use of vertical velocity and its relationship to the ball's horizontal motion upon impact with the wall.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered calculations and reasoning regarding the vertical velocity and its implications for determining time and height. There is ongoing exploration of the equations involved, with no explicit consensus reached on the correctness of the approaches taken.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the absence of horizontal displacement data and question the assumptions regarding vertical velocity when the ball is traveling horizontally. There is also mention of a follow-up question regarding the ball's behavior after bouncing off the wall.

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Homework Statement



a ball is projected at an angle of 37degree with respect to the horizontal with an initial speed of 25ft/s. if it is traveling horizontally when it hits a verical wall,
what is the height of the wall?

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The Attempt at a Solution



a) Vxi = 25 x cos37 = approximately 20ft/s , Vyi = 15 x sin37 = app 15ft/s
height of wall = Y axis displacement
so delta Y = Vyi x delta time + 1/2 x gravity x delta time^2
there is no information about displacement to X axis
in this case how can I get delta time?
 
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The solution is using the vertical velocity.
First of all, what is the formula for it?
Secondly, how can you tell when the ball is moving horizontally?
 
CompuChip said:
The solution is using the vertical velocity.
First of all, what is the formula for it?
Secondly, how can you tell when the ball is moving horizontally?

hm.. why do we have to use the vertical velocity?
so whicn mean Vy= Vyi - gt ? that what should I do?
since there is no displacement to X axis, I am not able to find delta time.
I am wondering if you understood this problem. since I wrote whole question from the book
thank you !
 
I understood the question alright, but did you?

You said:
if it is traveling horizontally when it hits a verical wall,

I claimed that you can convert this into an equation, and asked you if you have any clue which equation that is. (Hint: it has to do with the vertical velocity). From this equation, you will be able to solve the delta time that you need for the horizontal distance.
 
CompuChip said:
I understood the question alright, but did you?

You said:


I claimed that you can convert this into an equation, and asked you if you have any clue which equation that is. (Hint: it has to do with the vertical velocity). From this equation, you will be able to solve the delta time that you need for the horizontal distance.


if it is traveling horizontally = there is no vertical velocity.
that is what I know. am I right?

vertical V equation is Vy = Vyi + gravity x delta times
so 0 = Vi x sin37 + (-32) x delta times
= approximately 15 ft/s^2 + (-32) x delta times
so that delta times is 15/32 sec
and the height of the wall = displacement to y axis
so Y = Yo + Vyi(=15) x delta times + 1/2 x G x delta times^2
= 0 + 15 x 15/32 + (-16) x (15/32)^2
= 0 + 7 + (-3.5)
so height is approximately 3.5 ft

do u agree with me?

and I want you to confirm one more question followed by this problem.
" if when the object bounces away from the wall, its speed is reduced to one half of its original speed, then how far away from the wall does it hit the ground ? "
this is second question.

I've tried to resolve this problem as well.
here is my attemption.

since height of wall is 3.5 ft
delta Y = -3.5 = Vyi - g x delta times
= Vyi(=0) -32 x delta times
so delta times is approximately 0.1 sec ( in this case, initial velocity of Y axia is 0. right? )
btw i want to know x displacement. so X = Xo + Vix x delta times + 1/2 x acceleration x delta times^2
= 0 + 10 x delta times + 1/2 x acceleration(=0) x delta times^2
= 0 + 10 x 0.1 + 0 = 1 ft
so distance from the wall is 1ft
Vix = 25 x cos37 / 2 ( since its speed is reduced ) = app 10ft/s


Am i doing right? anyway thank you for the willingness to help me out :)
 
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