Projectile Motion of a Pebble on the Sloping Faces of Pyramid Cheops

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The problem involves a tourist throwing a pebble from a height on the sloping faces of the Pyramid of Cheops. The pebble is thrown with an initial speed perpendicular to the pyramid's face, and the goal is to determine the height at which the pebble impacts the pyramid below the tourist.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the equations of motion for the pebble, with some questioning the correctness of the initial equations presented. There are suggestions to draw a sketch and consider both x and y directions for a comprehensive understanding. One participant attempts to express time in terms of distance and velocity, while another seeks to eliminate variables for simplification.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants sharing their attempts and reasoning. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need to analyze the problem in both dimensions and equate the heights. There is no explicit consensus on the correctness of the approaches yet, as participants continue to explore different aspects of the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the presence of multiple variables (x, v, t, θ) and express confusion about how to eliminate them. There is also a mention of the need for a sketch to aid in visualizing the problem.

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Homework Statement



a tourist is climbing high up the pyramid of cheops, which has sloping faces that make and angle of theta with the ground. The tourist throws a pebble with initial speed v is a direction perpendicular to one of the faces. the the height at which the peble hits the pyramid below the tourist

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



y = vo + vyt + .5at
y = vtsin(90 - theta) + 4.9t


what else can i plug in. I am lost
 
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joemama69 said:
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The Attempt at a Solution



y = vo + vyt + .5at
y = vtsin(90 - theta) + 4.9t



what else can i plug in. I am lost


The above equations are wrong. Check them.
 
joemama69 said:

Homework Statement



a tourist is climbing high up the pyramid of cheops, which has sloping faces that make and angle of theta with the ground. The tourist throws a pebble with initial speed v is a direction perpendicular to one of the faces. the the height at which the peble hits the pyramid below the tourist

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



y = vo + vyt + .5at
y = vtsin(90 - theta) + 4.9t


what else can i plug in. I am lost

Draw a sketch of the problem. Think both in the x and y directions as you write your equations. The pebble will have a constant velocity in the x direction of ____? Given that info, you can calculate how far down the face the pebble will hit as a function of time.

Then think in the y direction, and write an equation that describes the height y above the launch point the pebble will be as a function of time. Equate the two y's, and that's where and when the pebble will hit the face...
 
vx = vcos(90-[tex]\theta[/tex])
vy = vsin(90-[tex]\theta[/tex])

x = vocos(90-[tex]\theta[/tex])t

is this usefull tan[tex]\theta[/tex] = y/(vcos(90-[tex]\theta[/tex])t)
 
it seems i have 4 variables, x,v,t[tex]\theta[/tex] can i get a clue on how to eliminate them
 
ok made some progress but still a little confused

x = vtcos(90-[tex]\theta[/tex]) therefore t = x/(vcos(90-[tex]\theta[/tex]))

y = vsin(90-[tex]\theta[/tex]))(x/(vcos(90-[tex]\theta[/tex]))) - 4.8(x/(vcos(90-[tex]\theta[/tex])))

y = xtan(90-[tex]\theta[/tex])) - 4.8x/(vcos(90-[tex]\theta[/tex]))) projectile

now i found the y based on the angle

tan[tex]\theta[/tex] = -y/x, therefore y = -xtan[tex]\theta[/tex] so i set both y's equal

-xtan[tex]\theta[/tex] = xtan(90-[tex]\theta[/tex])) - 4.8x/(vsin[tex]\theta[/tex])

is this correct so far
 
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