Projection of surface area elements in vector calculus

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The discussion focuses on calculating the normal vector, n, at a point on the surface S1 defined by the equation x² + y² + z = 1, with the condition z > 0. The normal vector is derived using the gradient, resulting in n = (2x, 2y, 1). The relationship between the area element dS on the surface and its projection dxdy in the xy-plane is established as dxdy = dS / √(1 + 4x + 4y). Participants clarify the normalization factor for the normal vector, emphasizing the correct components for accurate calculations.

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Homework Statement


(i) Find the normal, n, at a general point on the surface S1 given by; x2+y2+z = 1 and z > 0.

(ii) Use n to relate the size dS of the area element at a point on the surface S1 to its
projection dxdy in the xy-plane.

The Attempt at a Solution



To find n initially I have just done the grad giving 2x,2y,1

Then with the projection of the surface element I have done that dS=\hat{n}dS and in this case because it is the xy plane it is just in the \hat{k} direction.

\hat{n}=\frac{1}{\sqrt{1+4x+4y}}

and so I thought dxdy=\frac{dS}{\sqrt{1+4x+4y}}

I'm really not sure about this so and pointers would be a great help, thanks.

Also, sorry about the poor LaTeX!
 
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jj364 said:
Then with the projection of the surface element I have done that dS=\hat{n}dS and in this case because it is the xy plane it is just in the \hat{k} direction.
I think I'm following you here, but I'm not sure what your two "it"s are referring to.

\hat{n}=\frac{1}{\sqrt{1+4x+4y}}

This is just the k-component of ##\hat{n}##, right?
Check your normalization factor here, it's not quite correct.
Otherwise, I think you're on the right track.
 
Yes sorry, wasn't being very clear, I did mean the k component of n hat there yes. Ok I see the problem with the normalisation factor there, should be 4x2 and 4y2, thank you very much!
 

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