Proof of a set is sigma finite

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The discussion revolves around proving that the set N(f) = {x : f(x)≠ 0} is σ-finite when f is integrable. Participants are exploring the implications of integrability on the nature of this set.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Some participants attempt to relate the concept of σ-finiteness to simpler cases, questioning how the proof can be extended from simple functions to integrable functions. Others raise the definition of σ-finiteness and provide examples to clarify the concept.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights and clarifications regarding the definition of σ-finiteness and its application to the set N(f). There is an exploration of the relationship between the measure of N(f) and countable unions of finite measure sets.

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Participants are considering specific examples and definitions, such as the measure of sets A(f,n) and their implications for the proof. There is an acknowledgment of the need for clarity in the definitions being used.

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Homework Statement



if f is integrable, then the set N(f) = {x : f(x)≠ 0} is \sigma-finite

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i am stucked in this proof , somebody help me please

The Attempt at a Solution


if f is simple the it seems the set is finite since otherwise the the integral won't exist but how can it be extended to f is integrable?
 
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manuel huant said:

Homework Statement



if f is integrable, then the set N(f) = {x : f(x)≠ 0} is \sigma-finite

Homework Equations


i am stucked in this proof , somebody help me please

The Attempt at a Solution


if f is simple the it seems the set is finite since otherwise the the integral won't exist but how can it be extended to f is integrable?

What's the definition of N(f) being sigma finite? N(f) doesn't have to be finite. f(x)=1/x^2 is integrable on [1,infinity). [1,infinity) isn't finite.
 
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sorry i didn't put it right , it seems N(f) \sigma-finite means the measure of N(f) is a countable union of finite measure sets
u(N(f))= \underbrace{\cup}_{n}u(N(fn)) which u(N(fn)) <\infty
 
manuel huant said:
sorry i didn't put it right , it seems N(f) \sigma-finite means the measure of N(f) is a countable union of finite measure sets
u(N(f))= \underbrace{\cup}_{n}u(N(fn)) which u(N(fn)) <\infty

Define a set A(f,n)={x: |f(x)|>1/n}. A(f,n) will have finite measure, right?
 

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