Proof of Axiom of Choice equivalent.

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The discussion focuses on proving the equivalence of the Axiom of Choice (AoC) with a specific statement regarding functions on sets. The user successfully demonstrated that the AoC implies the existence of a function g such that f∘g∘f=f for any function f:X→X. However, they encounter challenges in proving the reverse implication, particularly when defining an equivalence relation based on f. They propose a method involving a pairwise disjoint family of nonempty sets to construct a suitable function f, which helps clarify the relationship between the domain and codomain. The user concludes that recognizing the equality of the domain and codomain was crucial in resolving their difficulties.
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I'm trying to prove that the axiom of choice is equivalent to the following statement:

For any set X and any function f:X\to X, there exists a function g:X\to X such that f\circ g\circ f=f.

I was able to prove that the AoC implies this, but I'm having a harder time going the other direction. It seems like if you define an equivalence relation on X where x\sim y iff f(x)=f(y), then the composite function g\circ f must map everything in each equivalence class to one of its members.

This seems like it's important, but we're still only choosing points for a very specific collection of subsets of X, namely the equivalence classes induced by the function. Is there a way to extend this to any collection of subsets, or am I heading in the wrong direction?
 
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Hmm... this is kind of a weird way of doing it, but I think it works: Let A be a pairwise disjoint family of nonempty sets. Then Let X be (UA)U(A)U{null}. Then define f:X->X by letting f(x)=B if x is in UA and B is in A and x is in B, and letting f(B)=null for B in A, and letting f(null)=null.

Then the equivalence relations include elements of A, since for every element B of A, everything in B and nothing else maps to B.
 
That looks very clean. Thank you very much. It was the fact that the domain and codomain had to be equal that was causing most of the trouble it seems.
 
I was reading documentation about the soundness and completeness of logic formal systems. Consider the following $$\vdash_S \phi$$ where ##S## is the proof-system making part the formal system and ##\phi## is a wff (well formed formula) of the formal language. Note the blank on left of the turnstile symbol ##\vdash_S##, as far as I can tell it actually represents the empty set. So what does it mean ? I guess it actually means ##\phi## is a theorem of the formal system, i.e. there is a...

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