Proof of Derivative f(x)=x^b & f^1(x)=bx^{b-1}

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The discussion revolves around proving the derivative of the function f(x) = x^b, specifically showing that f'(x) = b*x^(b-1). Participants explore various methods and considerations related to this proof, including the applicability of the binomial theorem and the treatment of different types of exponents.

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  • Participants suggest using the binomial theorem for integer exponents and discuss its limitations. There are mentions of Newton's generalized binomial theorem for broader cases, and alternative methods for negative and rational exponents are proposed. Questions arise regarding the proof for irrational exponents and the necessity of different approaches.

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The conversation is active, with various methods being explored for proving the derivative. Some participants have provided insights into how to handle different types of exponents, while others express uncertainty about the applicability of certain theorems. There is no explicit consensus, but multiple lines of reasoning are being examined.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of proving derivatives for different types of exponents, including integers, rationals, and irrationals. The discussion reflects the constraints of using specific mathematical tools like the binomial theorem and the generalized version for broader applications.

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Hi,

I was wondering if anyone could provide a proof for the following derivative

f(x)=x^b
f^1(x)=bx^{b-1}
 
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erm the latex input isn't quite working out right in my first post sry
 
One can use Newton's generalized binomial theorem, which is covered on the wikipedia page, for that case.
 
Alternatively, you can use a couple of cases

Once you prove it for nonnegative integers, you can do this

For negative integers:
let n be a positive integer

x^{-n} = \frac{1}{x^n}

taking the derivative of x^-n is the same as taking the derivative on the right via the quotient rule

\frac{d}{dx}\frac{1}{x^n}\right) = \frac{x^n(0) - 1(nx^{n-1})}{x^{2n}} = -nx^{-n-1}

proving it

Now you can prove it for rationals through this:

\frac{d}{dx} x^{p/q}

let y = x^{p/q}

y^q = x^p

implicitly differentiating

qy^{q-1} \frac{dy}{dx} = px^{p-1}

\frac{dy}{dx} = \frac{px^{p-1}}{qy^{q-1}} = \frac{px^{p-1}}{qx^{p(q-1)/q}}

= \frac{p}{q} x^{p/q - 1}

can you figure out a similar method for irrationals too?
 
I don't think there's a way to prove it for irrational exponents using the binomial theorem. Something else must be used.
 
But once you know it for rational exponents, the proof for irrational exponents is typical of arguments in anaysis.
 
Hurkyl said:
But once you know it for rational exponents, the proof for irrational exponents is typical of arguments in anaysis.
That is the "something else". You cannot prove it directly with the binomial theorem.
 
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Well to have used the binomial theorem to prove for rationals, you must have used the generalized version anyway, which applies to irrational exponents as well. You can prove it for rational exponents even without the binomial theorem, and after this its a simple matter of taking some limits.
 

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