Proof of Subspace Topology Problem: Error Identification & Explanation

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The discussion revolves around a proof related to the subspace topology, specifically focusing on the properties of sets within a metric space. The original poster seeks assistance in identifying errors in their proof concerning the closedness and openness of intersections of sets.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to demonstrate that the intersection of two sets is open by assuming it is closed and deriving a contradiction. Some participants question the validity of this assumption and clarify the distinction between being open in the subspace versus being open in the larger space.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the original proof, offering critiques and highlighting the need for clarity regarding the definitions of open and closed sets in the context of subspace topology. There is an exploration of the implications of the metric space properties on the problem at hand.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of the need to refer specifically to the subspace topology and the definitions of open sets within that context, indicating that the original poster may not have fully addressed this aspect in their proof.

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Homework Statement
Let [itex]K[/itex] be a subset of a metric space [itex]M[/itex], then if [itex]U[/itex] is open, [itex]U\cap K[/itex] is open in [itex]K[/itex]
Relevant Equations
Closed set: The set is called closed if all convergent sequences of elements of the set converge to an element of the set.

Open set: A set [itex]X[/itex] is said to be open if for every point [itex]x[/itex] in the set there is an open ball centered in it that is contained in the set.

Closure: The closure of a set [itex]A[/itex] is the intersection of all closed sets that contain [itex]A[/itex]
I have already seen proofs of this problem, but none of them match the one I did, therefore I would be glad if someone could indicate where is the mistake here. Thanks in advance.**My proof:** Take a limit point x of U that is not in U, but is in K (in other words x \in K \cap(\overline{U}-U)), then suppose that K\cap U is closed, this implies \overline{K \cap U}=K \cap U and then must contain all limit points of K\cap U since x is a limit point of U and is in K, it is also a limit point of K\cap U and therefore must be in it since its closed. However, this is absurd since it would imply that x \in U then K \cap U must be open.
 
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You appear to have assumed ##K\cap U## is closed and tried to derive a contradiction from that. If you have successfully done that (I didn't check) then you can conclude that ##K\cap U## is not closed. However that does not imply that it is open. Many sets are neither open nor closed, eg the half-open interval [0,1).

Also, you have not at any point in your proof attempt referrred to being open in K, which is what you have to prove. Being open in K is different from just being open (ie open in M). In a problem like this you need to make clear, when you refer to a set being open or closed, whether you mean open or closed in K or in M.
 
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If you look at the definition of subspace topology, and what the open sets are specifically of K, it will be immediate why the statement holds.
 
nucl34rgg said:
If you look at the definition of subspace topology, and what the open sets are specifically of K, it will be immediate why the statement holds.

I think this is probably not true. In particular K is a metric space, and so has a topology from that, which you are probably supposed to use. I suspect this question is leading up to motivating why the definition of the subspace topology makes sense.
 

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