Proof of the Possibility of Division

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The discussion revolves around proving the possibility of division within the context of field axioms, specifically addressing the existence of a unique quotient for non-zero elements. Participants explore the definitions and properties related to division, multiplicative inverses, and the uniqueness of solutions to equations involving these concepts.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks help in proving that for given non-zero elements a and b, there exists a unique x such that x = b/a, referencing field axioms.
  • Another participant suggests using the unique multiplicative inverse law for non-zero elements to approach the proof.
  • A different participant proposes defining a/b as a times the multiplicative inverse of b, emphasizing the uniqueness of the inverse and the properties of multiplication in a group.
  • One participant attempts to provide a proof, stating that if x = b/a, then it can be shown that b/a = b.a^-1, indicating the uniqueness of the solution.
  • Several participants introduce a new question about proving that -0 = 0 using field axioms, discussing the uniqueness of additive inverses and the definition of the additive identity.

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Participants express various approaches to the proof of division and the properties of zero, with no consensus reached on a single method or resolution of the questions posed.

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Some discussions involve assumptions about the definitions of division and inverses, which may depend on the specific axioms referenced from Apostol's text. The uniqueness of solutions and properties of operations are central to the arguments presented.

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Hi there! I have been reading Apostol's "Calculus: Volume 1" and have been trying to prove a few theorems using specific field axioms(note that this is not a "homework" question since I have not been assigned it, but instead, chosen to attempt it out of curiosity). Although I am not a math major, I am interested in these proofs. The theorem follows as such;

Given a and b and a does not equal zero, there exists one such x that x=b/a. This is called the quotient...etc.

Can someone help me prove the above theorem using the field axioms? I am not sure where to start.

My attempt...

ax=b

choose one y such that ax(y)=1

then,

ax(y)=b(y)=1

and I get stuck there.

Please help me if you can! Thank you in advance!
 
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use the unique multiplicative inverse law for non zero elements
 
I don't have that book, so I'll have to guess at the axioms.

There's no need to think in terms of setting up an equation. The nonzero elements of a field are a group under multiplication. Each element of that group has a unique multiplicative inverse. What is the definition of a/b? I'd define it to mean "a times the multiplicative inverse of b". b inverse is unique so this defines a unique product. The product of two elements of the group exists and is unique. That's one of the properties of a group isn't it?
 
Possibility of division: Given a and b with not equal to cero, there is exactly one x such that a.x=b. This x is denoted by b/a and is called the quotient of b and a. In particular, 1/a is also written a^-1 and is calle the reciprocal of a.

My english is bad but i will try to do the proof in an understandable way

proof: because b/a is the solution to the equation a.x=b and this solution is unique. It is enough to prove that b.a^-1 is also solution of this equation. And indeed, if x=b/a^-1 then:

a.x=a.(b.a^-1)=a.(a^-1..b)=(a.a^-1).b=1.1=b so we proved that b/a= b.a^1

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But I have a new question, how to prove that -0=0 with the field axioms? how would you prove that? please help me out of this, i looked this exercise in the book calculus of apostol first chapter perhaps it does ring a bell.
 
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But I have a new question, how to prove that -0=0 with the field axioms? how would you prove that? please help me out of this, i looked this exercise in the book calculus of apostol first chapter perhaps it does ring a bell.

Well, -0=0 means that 0 is the additive inverse of 0. So what you must prove is that 0+0=0. Since additive inverses are unique, this would imply -0=0.
 
I think it could also be proved using the definition of the additive identity.

Hint: Start with a+0=a

a+0=a \Rightarrow a=a-0 \Rightarrow -a+a=-a+a-0 \Rightarrow (-a+a)=(-a+a)-0 \Rightarrow 0=0-0=-0 \Rightarrow 0=-0
 
Thank you very much for your answers micromass and TylerH nice day... :)
 

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