Proof that disk of charge = point charge when very far?

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The discussion focuses on demonstrating that the electric field above the center of a uniformly charged disk behaves like that of a point charge when observed from a significant distance. The key equation referenced is E ~ q/4πεx², where q represents the total charge on the disk. Participants suggest using the binomial expansion to simplify the expression for the electric field, particularly when the distance x is much larger than the disk radius R. The solution involves approximating the square root term in the electric field equation to achieve the desired form.

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  • Understanding of electric fields and point charges
  • Familiarity with binomial expansion techniques
  • Knowledge of surface charge density and its implications
  • Basic calculus for manipulating equations
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  • Study the binomial expansion in detail, particularly for small values of t
  • Review the derivation of electric fields from charged objects
  • Explore the concept of limits in calculus to understand approximations
  • Investigate the relationship between surface charge density and total charge
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Homework Statement


Take the expression 21.11 (pictured below, specifically the bottom one) for the electric field above the center of a uniformly charged disk with radius R and surface charge density σ, and show that when one is very far from the disk, the field decreases with the same square of the distance as it would for a point charge, E ~ q/4πεx2, where q is the total charge on the disk.

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I solved one like this pretty easily where you prove that a long wire acts as an infinite wire, but I've been looking at this one for about an hour and I'm stumped. I know I need to get x2 on the bottom of the equation without being inside a square root, but I don't know how. The only approximation I can think of is that when R is much bigger than x, √(x2 + R2 + 1) goes to 1, but then I don't have an x anymore.
 
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I think you mean x much larger than R.
Do you know the binomial expansion of (1+t)a for small t?

Edit: must learn to post more quickly.
 
Yes, I meant if x is much larger than R then √(R2/x2 + 1) goes to 0 (hopefully I said it right that time). I haven't done binomial expansions, for a while so I'll review those, thanks.
 
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Ok I'm still stuck. I used σ = q/πR2 and did the binomial expansion and got this:
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EDIT: that should be R2/2x2
 
Note that ##\frac{1}{\sqrt{1+t^2}} = (1+t^2)^{-1/2}##
 
I see how to do it know, it's pretty simple, thanks.
 

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