Proportionality Constant(k) In Coulomb's Law

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the constant k in Coulomb's law, specifically its formulation as 1/4πε₀. Participants explore the origins and implications of this constant, touching on concepts such as electric flux and the relationship between electric field and distance.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks clarification on the origin of the constant k in Coulomb's law.
  • Another participant suggests that grouping constants together in the formula enhances clarity, emphasizing the roles of charges and distance as variables.
  • A participant proposes a reformulation of Coulomb's law in terms of electric flux, suggesting that the density of electric flux decreases with the area of a spherical surface around the charge.
  • There is mention of the relationship between Coulomb's law and Gauss's law, indicating a potential connection in understanding the constant.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

The discussion does not reach a consensus on the best way to express Coulomb's law or the implications of the constant k, with participants offering differing perspectives on its formulation and conceptual understanding.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding terminology and the implications of electric permittivity on the force described by Coulomb's law. There are also references to external resources for further exploration of the topic.

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Hello dear Physics Forums members,

My question is about the constant k, in Coulomb's law, which is:

1/4\pi ε0

Can anybody explain me where this constant comes from?
 
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Well, I think I started to get some things straight in my head. Well, I may have been using the wrong words, since my learning language is not English, but as I understand, it is about the electric flux. The density of the electric flux(which is electric field) decreases by the area of a mathematical spherical surface around the charge. So, it would make much sense if we wrote the formula as:

(1/4\piR2)*Q1*Q2/ε₀

which R is the distance between two charges, as we take it for the radius of the sphere, instead of d in the old Coulomb's law.

And of course, the whole force will be decreased if the electric permittivity(ε₀) increases, or the other way.

I hope I managed to tell you what I m thinking, and the way I settled it in my mind. Any critics, constructive ideas or other perspectives are welcome.
 
Hi again, Cetullah! Generally, I'd say it's a good idea to mathematically group constants together like it's originally done in Coulomb's law, it makes it easier for the eye. The charges (q's) and the distance (r) are variables.

Regarding Coulomb's constant and why it is (1/4\piε₀):

Coulomb's law is related to Gauss's[/PLAIN] law. Here's some links for you:

 
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Yeah, I got what you re saying ;) It just feels better when you get the logic tho :)
 

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