Prospects for nuclear engineering

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The discussion revolves around the prospects of pursuing a degree in Nuclear Engineering, particularly in light of recent events affecting the nuclear industry, such as the Fukushima disaster. Participants explore job opportunities, salary comparisons with other engineering fields, and the potential for research roles in nuclear engineering versus electrical engineering.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express concern about the job prospects for Nuclear Engineers, particularly in energy production, following the Fukushima incident.
  • Others question the claim that Nuclear Engineers have high unemployment rates, citing data suggesting low unemployment for Nuclear Engineers compared to other fields.
  • There are inquiries about salary comparisons between Nuclear Engineers and other engineering disciplines, with some suggesting that Nuclear Engineers earn among the highest salaries, second only to petroleum engineers.
  • Some participants share personal experiences and observations about the career paths of Nuclear Engineers, including those who transitioned into research roles or other industries.
  • Concerns are raised about the impact of anti-nuclear sentiment on job availability in the field.
  • Discussion includes the potential for diversification in skills and knowledge for engineers, emphasizing the importance of advanced mathematics and computational physics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the job market for Nuclear Engineers, with some asserting high unemployment rates while others provide data indicating low unemployment. The discussion on salary comparisons also reflects differing views, with some participants asserting high salaries while others seek more detailed breakdowns.

Contextual Notes

Limitations in the discussion include varying interpretations of employment statistics and the impact of recent events on the nuclear industry. The discussion also reflects a lack of consensus on the future job market for Nuclear Engineers.

Who May Find This Useful

Students considering a major in Nuclear Engineering or Electrical Engineering, professionals in the engineering field, and individuals interested in the future of energy production and research opportunities in nuclear science.

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Hi!

I entered college this semester and I planned to major in Electrical Engineering. However, I've heard that my college will begin offering Nuclear Engineering next year, and I'm wondering if I should transfer to that other field of Engineering. However, Nuclear Engineering is a relatively new course in my country (my college will be the second one here to offer such a course - the other began offering it just some three years ago).

I'm wondering what the prospects of a Nuclear Engineer are. How do their wages fare when compared to other engineers? Given that the prospects for nuclear power look a bit shaken after Fukushima, what type of salary can I expect if I end up working in another area (i.e. in the medical area)?

Last but not least: when I applied to college, I faced one of the toughest decisions in my life. I really wanted to major in Physics, but given the limited job opportunities for a Physics major and my family's financial conditions, I decided to take a safer bet and choose Engineering instead. However, I haven't really abandoned the idea of doing research in Physics or in a closely-related area. Would a nuclear engineer have better prospects in doing research than an electrical engineer? Have you heard of any Nuclear Engineers that ended up doing research?
 
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Acut said:
Hi!

I entered college this semester and I planned to major in Electrical Engineering. However, I've heard that my college will begin offering Nuclear Engineering next year, and I'm wondering if I should transfer to that other field of Engineering. However, Nuclear Engineering is a relatively new course in my country (my college will be the second one here to offer such a course - the other began offering it just some three years ago).

I'm wondering what the prospects of a Nuclear Engineer are. How do their wages fare when compared to other engineers? Given that the prospects for nuclear power look a bit shaken after Fukushima, what type of salary can I expect if I end up working in another area (i.e. in the medical area)?

Last but not least: when I applied to college, I faced one of the toughest decisions in my life. I really wanted to major in Physics, but given the limited job opportunities for a Physics major and my family's financial conditions, I decided to take a safer bet and choose Engineering instead. However, I haven't really abandoned the idea of doing research in Physics or in a closely-related area. Would a nuclear engineer have better prospects in doing research than an electrical engineer?
One could still major in physics, and in fact I encourage engineering students to take as much physics as possible. I started out as a physics major before migrating to nuclear engineering. If I could do it over, I'd do a double major in physics and nuclear engineering.

Have you heard of any Nuclear Engineers that ended up doing research?
I'm one of several nuclear engineers from my university department who ended up doing research. Several of us work for private corporations, others work in various national/government research labs or NASA, and others returned to academia. Yet others left the nuclear industry altogether. One colleague at university did a double major in Electrical and Nuclear Engineering. I took quite a few courses in electrical engineering beyond circuits: subjects included electromechanics, power system design and analysis, control theory, signal analysis and digital relaying/SCADA.

Engineers and physicists should be diversified as much as possible in various aspects of the field. I also strongly recommend as much advanced math as possible.

A particularly important area these days is computational physics, which is becoming more of my work. One must be comfortable with solving systems of coupled non-linear partial differential equations, so math and physics is a key part of that. The engineering comes from knowing how systems and their components function on multiples spatial and temporal scales from macro to atomic, and from years to milliseconds.

US (Westinghouse, GNF) and European (e.g., AREVA) multinational companies have offices in many countries with nuclear programs, and often have relationships with national companies in those countries.
 
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And how do the salaries of a nuclear engineer fare in comparison to other branches of engineering?
 
I think in the United States, nuclear engineers have some of the highest unemployment
 
Woopydalan said:
I think in the United States, nuclear engineers have some of the highest unemployment

Ouch! Why?
 
I think we've closed down nuclear plants over the past years, but Astronuc would be better to ask about it.
 
Woopydalan said:
I think we've closed down nuclear plants over the past years, but Astronuc would be better to ask about it.

Yeah, this part of replacing nuclear energy with other forms of energy is what scares me the most if I go to this area. It seems to me that the most exciting jobs in this engineering are related to energy production. This is why I also asked what Nuclear Engineers earn in other areas as well.
 
I am in the same dilemma except I have not entered college yet. Astronuc, how do you feel about the future of nuclear engineers (involved specifically in energy production or weapons defense) in America after Fukushima? This field interests me greatly but I am worried that there will not be jobs. The large anti-nuclear crowd is intimidating as well.
 
Woopydalan said:
I think in the United States, nuclear engineers have some of the highest unemployment

I'm not sure on what data you are basing this statement but I do not think it is true.

Information about unemployment for engineers can be found here:

http://cis.org/obama-and-engineers

Of course, that doesn't take into account the amount of engineers there are in each field at large. For example, there are of course more EEs than NEs. I decided to look into that and by using the data that can be found on BLS.gov for the number of jobs there were for each engineering field for same year, 2010, I found NEs to have one of the lowest rates of unemployment at 2.1%. Compare that with 8.2% for both MEs and EEs and I would say that nuclear engineers are doing quite well getting work.

I can also add anecdotally that, according to my adviser, of the 207 nuclear engineers my program at UofI graduated last year, about 30% went on to grad school. Of the remaining only 2 have not yet found work.
 
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Does anyone have statistics comparing how Nuclear Engineers' salaries compare to other branches of Enginheering?
 
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Acut said:
Does anyone have statistics comparing how Nuclear Engineers' salaries compare to other branches of Enginheering?

Yes, it's one of the highest, second only to petroleum engineers (no surprise there). That information and much more can be found at BLS.gov here:

http://www.bls.gov/ooh/Architecture-and-Engineering/home.htm
 
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ChaseDuncan said:
Yes, it's one of the highest, second only to petroleum engineers (no surprise there). That information and much more can be found at BLS.gov here:

http://www.bls.gov/ooh/Architecture-and-Engineering/home.htm

But how do the sub fields in Nuclear Engineer fare when viewed separately?
 
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yentar said:
I am in the same dilemma except I have not entered college yet. Astronuc, how do you feel about the future of nuclear engineers (involved specifically in energy production or weapons defense) in America after Fukushima? This field interests me greatly but I am worried that there will not be jobs. The large anti-nuclear crowd is intimidating as well.
I know companies who are hiring. There are many senior folks in the industry who will be retiring in the next 10 years, and they will need to be replaced.

Fukushima hasn't really affected current plants, but it put a stop on the South Texas Project.

Two new plants are underway at Vogtle and hopefully soon at V. C. Summer.

Nuclear engineering overlaps with other engineering disciplines, e.g., mechanical engineering (in thermodynamics and fluid mechanics), electrical engineering, materials science, civil engineering. I encourage engineering students to take as many math and physics courses as possible, be diverse by branching into other areas of engineering, and get a graduate degree.

The industry is looking for skilled individuals who are willing to tackle challenging problems.

The salaries are very good, and are commensurate with experience and capability/proficiency.
 
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The prospects for nuclear engineers are looking good, just not yet. In a few years it could be booming. In the mean time, I agree with astronuc - diversify. BTW, I worked at the south texas project in the mid 80's. It is a good company.
 
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HLion said:
Astronuc, have you ever been part of a team that has actually built anything?
Yes. Most of my work (failure analysis and predictive analysis - theory, tools and application) though is explaining why things failed, and more importantly, preventing failure in currently operating systems. I (and my colleagues) have a very good record. In a previous position, I did a lot of manufacturing oversight (technical assessment and QA (performance-based, before it became a buzzword) auditing) and design assessment.

Acutally, a component that a colleague and I designed is being tested.
 
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HLion said:
Chemical engineers are in demand, but its the same old story: "...can't find chemical engineers with the skills industry needs"

P. 19 in "The Role of the Chemical Sciences in Finding Alternatives to Critical Resources" c 2012.

And no, they don't mean more math and physics.

You have been extremely rude. Whether or not someone gets a job within their field is dependent on their own attitude towards getting a job/starting a career in their field. Regardless of their training, engineers are engineers and they have the ability to mix and match their jobs in different industries and fields.
 

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