Prove Baby Rudin Problem: Constant f If |f(x)-f(y)|≤(x-y)^2

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The discussion revolves around proving that a function \( f \) is constant given the condition \( |f(x) - f(y)| \leq (x-y)^2 \) for all real \( x \) and \( y \). The problem is situated within the context of real analysis, specifically exploring properties of functions and continuity.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore whether assuming \( f \) is constant is valid and discuss implications of the given inequality. Questions arise about the relationship between \( f(x) \) and \( f(y) \) based on the inequality, particularly regarding the conditions under which \( |f(x) - f(y)| \) can be zero or positive. There is also consideration of the function's differentiability and uniform continuity as potential avenues for proof.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants questioning assumptions and exploring different approaches to the problem. Some suggest that the function may be uniformly continuous and Lipschitz, while others propose examining the implications of differentiability. There is no explicit consensus yet, but various lines of reasoning are being pursued.

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Participants note that the problem does not provide information about the differentiability of \( f \), which affects the approaches being considered. The discussion also reflects a common challenge in understanding the implications of the given inequality in the context of proving constancy.

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Homework Statement


Let f be defined for all real x and suppose that,
\left|f(x) - f(y)\right|\leq(x-y)^2

for all real x and y. Prove that f is constant.

The Attempt at a Solution


First of all, is following allowed. Since f is constant then \left|f(x) - f(y)\right|=0, and form here to build my proof?

Here is what i don't understand. If i suppose that \left|f(x) - f(y)\right|\leq(x-y)^2 then does that imply that f(x) is always greater then f(y)?
Since (x-y)^2>0 when x≠y then that means that \left|f(x) - f(y)\right|> 0 because if it were to be \left|f(x) - f(y)\right|= 0 we would violate x≠y . Onliy way that \left|f(x) - f(y)\right|> 0 is that f(x) is always greater then f(y)

But this leads me to contradiction since f should be constant i.e. \left|f(x) - f(y)\right|=0.

On the other hand (x-y)^2=0 iff x=y then that means that \left|f(x) - f(y)\right|= 0.

So perhaps my question boils down to is can i take that x=y or am i only allowed to that x≠y?Also i am trying to think of all things that will prove that some function is constant. First thing that comes to mind is that first derivative is 0. Can that be a starting point?
 
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Government$ said:

Homework Statement


Let f be defined for all real x and suppose that,
\left|f(x) - f(y)\right|\leq(x-y)^2

for all real x and y. Prove that f is constant.

The Attempt at a Solution


First of all, is following allowed. Since f is constant
No, this isn't allowed. You can't assume that f is constant - that's what you need to show. Starting with the given inequality, you need to arrive at the conclusion that f is constant.
Government$ said:
then \left|f(x) - f(y)\right|=0, and form here to build my proof?

Here is what i don't understand. If i suppose that \left|f(x) - f(y)\right|\leq(x-y)^2 then does that imply that f(x) is always greater then f(y)?
No it doesn't imply that. |f(x) - f(y)| is always >= 0, regardless of which function is larger.
Government$ said:
Since (x-y)^2>0 when x≠y then that means that \left|f(x) - f(y)\right|> 0 because if it were to be \left|f(x) - f(y)\right|= 0 we would violate x≠y . Onliy way that \left|f(x) - f(y)\right|> 0 is that f(x) is always greater then f(y)

But this leads me to contradiction since f should be constant i.e. \left|f(x) - f(y)\right|=0.

On the other hand (x-y)^2=0 iff x=y then that means that \left|f(x) - f(y)\right|= 0.

So perhaps my question boils down to is can i take that x=y or am i only allowed to that x≠y?Also i am trying to think of all things that will prove that some function is constant. First thing that comes to mind is that first derivative is 0. Can that be a starting point?
 
Government$ said:
Also i am trying to think of all things that will prove that some function is constant. First thing that comes to mind is that first derivative is 0. Can that be a starting point?
It sounds promising, but you aren't given that the function is differentiable. Can you show it is differentiable based on the given inequality?

One observation is that the function is uniformly continuous, because if |x - y| \leq 1 we have
$$|f(x) - f(y)| \leq (x-y)^2 \leq |x - y|$$
In fact, this shows that f is Lipschitz, a stronger condition than uniform continuity, but weaker than differentiability. Perhaps with a bit more work you can show differentiability?
 
Try dividing both sides by \mid x-y\mid and then find a way to look at it as f'(y).
 
This is a dumb question (like so many in baby Rudin, what a terible book). Clearly f is differentiable, but I prefer to note

$$|\mathrm{f}(x)-\mathrm{f}(y)|=\left| \sum^n_{k=1}(\mathrm{f}(z_k)-\mathrm{f}(z_{k-1}))\right|\le \sum^n_{k=1}|\mathrm{f}(z_k)-\mathrm{f}(z_{k-1})|\le \sum^n_{k=1}(z_k-z_{k-1})^2=(x-y)^2/n\le \epsilon$$
where
$$z_k=y+(x-y)(k/n)$$
 

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