Prove Continuity of \sqrt{x} in R+

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The discussion revolves around proving the continuity of the function \(\sqrt{x}\) in the positive real numbers \(R^+\) using the epsilon-delta definition of continuity. Participants are exploring the formal requirements of this proof and the implications of the epsilon-delta framework.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the necessity of choosing an appropriate epsilon and the implications of this choice in the context of proving continuity. There are attempts to manipulate inequalities to relate \(|\sqrt{x} - \sqrt{a}|\) to \(|x - a|\). Questions arise about how to express delta in terms of epsilon and how to handle different cases based on the values of \(a\) and \(x\).

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Some participants have provided insights into the relationship between the function values and the distance between points, while others are still grappling with how to formalize their arguments. There is a recognition of the need to work through specific cases to establish a clear proof, particularly for values of \(a\) less than and greater than 1.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of working within the constraints of the epsilon-delta definition and the challenges posed by different ranges of \(a\). There is an acknowledgment of the need for careful manipulation of inequalities to establish continuity formally.

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Homework Statement


Prove that \sqrt{x} is continuous in R+ by using the epsilon-delta definition.


Homework Equations


A function f from R to R is continuous at a point a \in R if :

Given ε> 0 there exists δ > 0 such that if |a - x| < δ then |f(a) - f(x)| < ε



The Attempt at a Solution




So I have to take an ε which is greater than 0 and prove that there exists a δ such that if the absolute value of (a - x) is smaller than that delta then the absolute values of the function values of a and x are smaller than ε.

I know I have to pick an ε which is greater than 0 but how do I know what value to pick for ε? 1,2,...n?
 
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PhysicsDude1 said:

Homework Statement


Prove that \sqrt{x} is continuous in R+ by using the epsilon-delta definition.


Homework Equations


A function f from R to R is continuous at a point a \in R if :

Given ε> 0 there exists δ > 0 such that if |a - x| < δ then |f(a) - f(x)| < ε



The Attempt at a Solution




So I have to take an ε which is greater than 0 and prove that there exists a δ such that if the absolute value of (a - x) is smaller than that delta then the absolute values of the function values of a and x are smaller than ε.

I know I have to pick an ε which is greater than 0 but how do I know what value to pick for ε? 1,2,...n?
You don't get to pick the ε. The whole δ - ε thing should be viewed as a dialog between you (who are trying to prove that a certain limit exists) and an acquaintance who is skeptical of the process. The other person gives you an ε value, which by the way is usually small and close to zero. You respond by finding a number δ so that when x is within δ of a, then √x is within ε units of √a.

If your skeptical friend is not satisfied, he will say something like, "Well it works for that ε. How about if ε is smaller?" You respond by finding a different δ, and show your friend that when x is within δ of a, then √x is again within ε units of √a.

The process continues until your skeptical friend realizes that no matter how small an ε he gives you, you are able to come up with a δ that works, and the limit is established.
 
Mark44 said:
You don't get to pick the ε. The whole δ - ε thing should be viewed as a dialog between you (who are trying to prove that a certain limit exists) and an acquaintance who is skeptical of the process. The other person gives you an ε value, which by the way is usually small and close to zero. You respond by finding a number δ so that when x is within δ of a, then √x is within ε units of √a.

If your skeptical friend is not satisfied, he will say something like, "Well it works for that ε. How about if ε is smaller?" You respond by finding a different δ, and show your friend that when x is within δ of a, then √x is again within ε units of √a.

The process continues until your skeptical friend realizes that no matter how small an ε he gives you, you are able to come up with a δ that works, and the limit is established.


Thank you. This was very helpful intuive-wise! But how do I do this formally? Do I write δ in terms of ε?
I'm sorry but I'm really stuck here.
 
PhysicsDude1 said:
Thank you. This was very helpful intuive-wise! But how do I do this formally? Do I write δ in terms of ε?
I'm sorry but I'm really stuck here.
Yes. Also, you need to work in the actual function, not f(x).

Start with the inequality |√x - √a| < ε and work backwards to |x - a| < <some expression>. That <some expression> will be your delta.
 
At any point, a, you want to prove that given some \epsilon&gt; 0, there exist \delta&gt; 0 such that "if |x- a|&lt; \delta then |f(x)- f(a)|&lt; \epsilon.

So start with what you want to get: |f(x)- f(a)|= |\sqrt{x}- \sqrt{a}|&lt; \epsilon and try to manipulate that to get "|x- a|&lt; some number".

I recommend you start by separating this into two cases: x> a and x< a. Square root is an increasing function so that if x> a then \sqrt{x}&gt; \sqrt{a} and if x< a then \sqrt{x}&lt; \sqrt{a} so you can eliminate the absolute values.
 
Mark44 said:
Yes. Also, you need to work in the actual function, not f(x).

Start with the inequality |√x - √a| < ε and work backwards to |x - a| < <some expression>. That <some expression> will be your delta.
|√x - √a| < ε


Sorry, accidentally clicked on post. I'm working on it :p
 
Ok, so I've, actually it was you guys, come up with this so far :

|√x - √a| < ε

⇔ |√x - √a| = |√x - √a| . \frac{|\sqrt{x}+ \sqrt{a}|}{|\sqrt{x}+ \sqrt{a}|}

⇔ |√x - √a| = \frac{|x-a|}{|\sqrt{x}+ \sqrt{a}|}

⇔ \frac{|x-a|}{|\sqrt{x}+ \sqrt{a}|} < ε

⇔ |x-a| < ε . |\sqrt{x}+ \sqrt{a}|

Is this correct so far?
 
You've got the key equality, which is to relate √x - √a to x - a.

|√x - √a| = |x−a|/|√x +√a|

I would do this first for a = 0. I.e. prove √x is continuous at 0.

Then prove it for a > 1. If a > 1, then, |√x - √a| is smaller than |x−a|. So, it should be easy to find δ. But, if a < 1, then |√x - √a| could be larger than |x−a|. That's the tricky bit.

So, if you want to take it step by step, you could prove it for a >= 1. And, then finally prove it for a < 1. This might be easier until you get used to ε-δ.

For a < 1, there's a trick you'll need that is used a lot in ε-δ. It's not easy to spot first time you come across it.
 

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