Prove Determinant Using the Triple Scalar Product

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The discussion focuses on proving the relationship between the determinant of a matrix and the triple scalar product using the identity det A = (u x v) · w, where u, v, and w are the row vectors of matrix A. The key point is recognizing that both the determinant and the scalar triple product represent the volume of the parallelepiped formed by the vectors. The user expresses confusion about how to connect the determinant with the triple scalar product, indicating a lack of understanding of the geometric interpretation. The thread emphasizes that the determinant can be expressed using the Levi-Civita symbol, leading to the conclusion that det A = (A1 x A2) · A3. Ultimately, the discussion clarifies the relationship between these mathematical concepts.
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Homework Statement


I'm supposed to prove det A = \frac{1}{6} \epsilon_{ijk} \epsilon_{pqr} A_{ip} A_{jq} A_{kr} using the triple scalar product.

Homework Equations


\frac{1}{6} \epsilon_{ijk} \epsilon_{pqr} A_{ip} A_{jq} A_{ kr}
(\vec u \times \vec v) \cdot \vec w = u_i v_j w_k \epsilon_{ijk}

The Attempt at a Solution


I have written out and understand that det A = \epsilon_{ijk} A_{1i} A_{2j} A_{3k} but I don't understand where the triple scalar product comes into play.

I see the similarity between the shorthand notations of the triple scalar product and the determinant but don't see how I can relate the two. I figure I must be missing some geometric/mathematical interpretation that can help me.

I've used Einstein summation notation in a couple previous problems but this is really the first involved problem I have to do and am a bit lost as to what to do.
 
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ThirdEyeBlind said:

Homework Statement


I'm supposed to prove det A = \frac{1}{6} \epsilon_{ijk} \epsilon_{pqr} A_{ip} A_{jq} A_{kr} using the triple scalar product.

Homework Equations


\frac{1}{6} \epsilon_{ijk} \epsilon_{pqr} A_{ip} A_{jq} A_{ kr}
(\vec u \times \vec v) \cdot \vec w = u_i v_j w_k \epsilon_{ijk}

The Attempt at a Solution


I have written out and understand that det A = \epsilon_{ijk} A_{1i} A_{2j} A_{3k} but I don't understand where the triple scalar product comes into play.

I see the similarity between the shorthand notations of the triple scalar product and the determinant but don't see how I can relate the two. I figure I must be missing some geometric/mathematical interpretation that can help me.

I've used Einstein summation notation in a couple previous problems but this is really the first involved problem I have to do and am a bit lost as to what to do.

Both the scalar triple product and the determinant (in 3 dimensions) have the geometrical interpretation of volume. ##(\vec u \times \vec v) \cdot \vec w## is the volume of the prism formed by vectors u, v, and w. They are probably expecting you to make the identification

$$ \det A \quad = (\vec{A}_1 \times \vec{A}_2) \cdot \vec{A}_3 ,$$

where, for example, ##\vec{A}_1## is the first row in matrix A. The determinant of A is the volume spanned by its three row vectors.

That gets you up to the point where you are, namely ##\det A = \epsilon_{ijk} A_{1i} A_{2j} A_{3k}##. To get the rest of it, note that

$$\det A = \epsilon_{ijk} A_{1i} A_{2j} A_{3k} = -\epsilon_{ijk} A_{2i} A_{1j} A_{3k} = \epsilon_{213}\epsilon_{ijk} A_{2i} A_{1j} A_{3k}$$

for example.
 

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