Prove identity matrix cannot be product of an odd number of row exchanges

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The discussion revolves around proving that the identity matrix cannot be expressed as the product of an odd number of row exchanges, specifically focusing on cases involving three and five exchanges. The context is rooted in linear algebra, particularly in the properties of matrices and row operations.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the implications of row exchanges on the identity matrix, questioning the sufficiency of initial proof attempts and the reasoning behind the number of rows differing from the identity matrix after various exchanges.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants raising critical questions about the completeness of the original proof and the assumptions made regarding the number of rows that can differ after multiple swaps. There is a recognition of the need for further clarification and exploration of the topic.

Contextual Notes

Participants note potential constraints in the original proof related to the handling of odd versus even numbers of row exchanges and the implications of larger matrices on the number of differing rows.

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Problem: #29 in Strang Linear Algebra

Prove that the identity matrix cannot be the product of 3 row exchanges (or five). It can be the product of 2 exchanges (or 4).

Now, to start, we try to count the number of rows that are different from the identity matrix. For the first row exchange, it's 2. Second, it becomes either 0, 3, or 4. Third, it can go to 1,2,3,4,6. Four, 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,8...

Is this proof sufficient enough?
 
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Is this proof sufficient enough?
No, for two reasons.

(1) You had to prove something about 5 swaps, but have said nothing about that.

(2) You haven't offered any proof of why, for example, you can have 0, 3, or 4 rows different after two swaps.


(Incidentally, you are wrong. For example, I can easily get 8 rows different after 4 swaps, if my matrix is large enough)
 
Oh, sorry, title post was wrong, actually, identity matrix cannot be a product of 3 or 5 row exchanges - but did not say odd number of row exchanges.

hm. After 1 swap, we have 2 rows diferent. After 2 swaps, both rows can swap back to identity, one dif row can swap with one same row, or two same rows swap to different. So we have 0,2,4. And then the thing continues...?
 
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Can you take the row reduction rules for determinants as given?
 
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