Linear Algebra: Parametric Solution Set

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The discussion revolves around a linear algebra problem involving a system of equations represented in parametric form. The original poster presents a solution set for a system \( Ax = b \), where \( A \) is a 4x3 matrix, and seeks to explore various properties related to the matrix and its columns.

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  • The original poster attempts to solve for the parameter \( t \) to derive a coefficient matrix but struggles with the approach. They also note the linear dependence of the solution set and question its significance. Some participants suggest clarifying notation and the structure of the equations presented.

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Participants are actively engaging with the original poster's attempts, providing feedback on notation and offering suggestions for clearer expression of the problem. There is recognition of confusion regarding the formulation of the problem, and some guidance is being offered on how to represent vectors correctly.

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The original poster expresses uncertainty about the implications of linear dependence and the correct interpretation of the matrix dimensions involved in the system. There is an acknowledgment of the need for clearer notation in mathematical expressions.

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Homework Statement


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Suppose the solution set of some system Ax = b , Where A is a 4x3 matrix, is

*Bold characters are vectors*

x_1
= 1 + 3t
x_2 = 2 - t
x_3 = 3 + 2t

where t is a parameter and can be any number.

a) How many pivots are in the row echelon form of A?

b) Let u, v, w be the columns of A. Do they span the whole R^4? Explain.

c) Is u, v, w a linearly independent set? Explain.

d) Produce a linear relation for u, v, w. ( Hint: what is the solution of the system Ax = 0 ?)​

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution



My original attempt I tried to solve for the parameter t in hopes that this would give me a coefficient matrix for x that I could substitute in the equation for x but I could not make this work. I also realized that the solution set is linearly dependent as one of the rows can be expressed as linear combinations of the other rows but I don't know if this is significant information for this problem.

My secondary attempt was to consider a system where the solution set in the form listed above was b, then A would be a 4x3 identity matrix. I then multiplied each side of the equation by the 4x3 Identity matrix but multiplying the equation by 1 was not leading me to the next path, and thus now I sit here in utter confusion trying to make sense of this problem and is making me question my confidence in my other solutions on the assignment :sorry:.

Note: I am having trouble mainly with formulating an expression or method to solve Part A, but I feel with a few minor hints after formulating Part A I can handle the question. Thanks for the help!
 

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Ty Ellison said:

Homework Statement


[/B]
Suppose the solution set of some system Ax = b , Where A is a 4x3 matrix, is

*Bold characters are vectors*

x_1
= 1 + 3t
x_2 = 2 - t
x_3 = 3 + 2t

where t is a parameter and can be any number.

a) How many pivots are in the row echelon form of A?

b) Let u, v, w be the columns of A. Do they span the whole R^4? Explain.

c) Is u, v, w a linearly independent set? Explain.

d) Produce a linear relation for u, v, w. ( Hint: what is the solution of the system Ax = 0 ?)​

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution



My original attempt I tried to solve for the parameter t in hopes that this would give me a coefficient matrix for x that I could substitute in the equation for x but I could not make this work. I also realized that the solution set is linearly dependent as one of the rows can be expressed as linear combinations of the other rows but I don't know if this is significant information for this problem.

My secondary attempt was to consider a system where the solution set in the form listed above was b, then A would be a 4x3 identity matrix. I then multiplied each side of the equation by the 4x3 Identity matrix but multiplying the equation by 1 was not leading me to the next path, and thus now I sit here in utter confusion trying to make sense of this problem and is making me question my confidence in my other solutions on the assignment :sorry:.

Note: I am having trouble mainly with formulating an expression or method to solve Part A, but I feel with a few minor hints after formulating Part A I can handle the question. Thanks for the help!

Your three equations make no sense. You say that "bold characters are vectors", then write ##\mathbf{x}_1 = 1+3t##, etc. You have a vector on the left and a scalar on the right.
 
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Hi, you’re totally right! I didn’t know how use the text editor in P.F. to write a matrix so I attempted to write out the equations. The matrix is given in vector parametric form in the picture I attached. Sorry for the confusion and thanks for the help!
 
Ty Ellison said:
Hi, you’re totally right! I didn’t know how use the text editor in P.F. to write a matrix so I attempted to write out the equations. The matrix is given in vector parametric form in the picture I attached. Sorry for the confusion and thanks for the help!
To get a (column) vector, use either "\pmatrix{..your vector..}" or "\ begin{bmatrix} ... your vector ...\ end{bmatrix}" Your vector has the form "a1 \\ a2 \\ a \\ ..." in either case, so that "\\" ends one row and/or starts another. (Remove the space between the "\" and the word "begin" or "end"; I inserted them just to keep the typsetter from going crazy.) Note that in the first form the whole vector is inside curly brackets "{ }" but not in the second one.
These give:
$$\mathbf{x} = \pmatrix{a_1 \\a_2\\a_3} \; \Leftarrow \; \text{first form}$$
and
$$ \mathbf{x} = \begin{bmatrix} a_1 \\ a_2 \\ a_3 \end{bmatrix} \; \Leftarrow \; \text{second form} $$
The choice is yours.

Right-click on the formula and ask for display math as tex commands to see the actual typed forms.

Alternatively, you could have said that "##x_1, x_2, x_3## are the three components of the vector ##\mathbf{x}##"; then what you wrote would make perfect sense.
 
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Ray Vickson said:
To get a (column) vector, use either "\pmatrix{..your vector..}" or "\ begin{bmatrix} ... your vector ...\ end{bmatrix}" Your vector has the form "a1 \\ a2 \\ a \\ ..." in either case, so that "\\" ends one row and/or starts another. (Remove the space between the "\" and the word "begin" or "end"; I inserted them just to keep the typsetter from going crazy.) Note that in the first form the whole vector is inside curly brackets "{ }" but not in the second one.
These give:
$$\mathbf{x} = \pmatrix{a_1 \\a_2\\a_3} \; \Leftarrow \; \text{first form}$$
and
$$ \mathbf{x} = \begin{bmatrix} a_1 \\ a_2 \\ a_3 \end{bmatrix} \; \Leftarrow \; \text{second form} $$
The choice is yours.

Right-click on the formula and ask for display math as tex commands to see the actual typed forms.

Alternatively, you could have said that "##x_1, x_2, x_3## are the three components of the vector ##\mathbf{x}##"; then what you wrote would make perfect sense.
Thank you, I will try retyping the question asap!
 
Ty Ellison said:

Homework Statement


[/B]
Suppose the solution set of some system Ax = b , Where A is a 4x3 matrix, is

*Bold characters are vectors*

x_1
= 1 + 3t
x_2 = 2 - t
x_3 = 3 + 2t

where t is a parameter and can be any number.​
...
Below is a snip from the image referenced by your thumbnail. In my opinion the only significant problem with your notation above was to bold face for the components of the x vector.
upload_2018-1-31_16-9-36.png


Now let's look at your second attempt at a solution:

The Attempt at a Solution



My original attempt ...

My secondary attempt was to consider a system where the solution set in the form listed above was b, then A would be a 4x3 identity matrix. I then multiplied each side of the equation by the 4x3 Identity matrix but multiplying the equation by 1 was not leading me to the next path, and thus now I sit here in utter confusion trying to make sense of this problem and is making me question my confidence in my other solutions on the assignment :sorry:.
You also included this in your image:
upload_2018-1-31_16-7-37.png


Notice that ##\ A\, \vec x \ ## results from multiplying a 4×3 matrix by a 3×1 vector so your result should have a dimension of 4×1, not 3×1 .
 

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