Prove mass, velocity and KE are their respected quantities

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The discussion centers on the classification of mass, velocity, and kinetic energy (KE) in physics. Mass is confirmed as a scalar quantity, while velocity is a vector. The kinetic energy formula, defined as KE = 1/2 m v^2, illustrates that even though velocity is a vector, v^2 (the dot product of velocity with itself) results in a scalar, making KE a scalar quantity. The conversation also touches on the concepts of work, force, and the distinction between dot and cross products of vectors.

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  • Understanding of scalar and vector quantities
  • Familiarity with the kinetic energy formula KE = 1/2 m v^2
  • Knowledge of vector operations, specifically dot and cross products
  • Basic principles of Newtonian mechanics
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I have done the example for momentum.

And I gather that scalar*vector=vector.

I know that mass and KE is scalar, velocity is vector.

Can someone show me proofs like for what I have said above.

Not just mass is scalar because it does not have direction etc.

Thank you.
 
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KE is defined as ##KE=1/2 m v^2##, where ##m## is a scalar and ##v## is a vector. ##v^2## is short for ## v \cdot v## which is the dot product, an operation which takes two vectors and returns a scalar. So although ##v## is a vector ##v^2## is a scalar, and thus KE is a scalar.
 
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Dale said:
KE is defined as ##KE=1/2 m v^2##, where ##m## is a scalar and ##v## is a vector. ##v^2## is short for ## v \cdot v## which is the dot product, an operation which takes two vectors and returns a scalar. So although ##v## is a vector ##v^2## is a scalar, and thus KE is a scalar.

Thank you, this was what I was looking for.

So in general we have;

scalar*scalar= scalar?

scalar*vector = vector

vector*vector = scalar.

What about work done though?

Work done = energy

So force * distance = vector * scalar? = vector

Could you also kindly tell me about how to prove mass is scalar please.
 
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Work done = energy
So force * distance = vector * scalar? = vector
Work is force times displacement. Displacement is a vector, not a scalar. The product is a dot product and produces a scalar.

Could you also kindly tell me about how to prove mass is scalar please.
Mass is defined as a scalar. It is a scalar by definition.
 
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vector*vector = scalar.
Not always. There are two vector products. The dot product takes two vectors and gives a scalar, but the cross product takes two vectors and gives another vector. These are usually written as ##a \cdot b## and ##a \times b## respectively.

For the rest of your questions I agree with jbriggs444's answers above, particularly for Newtonian mechanics.
 
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Dale said:
The dot product takes two vectors and gives a scalar, but the cross product takes two vectors and gives another vector.

And the tensor product results in a matrix.
 
Don't forget a useful property of basic arithmetic. For real numbers, even powers are always positive, odd powers can be plus or minus. Vectors, like velocity, need to have direction and thus change sign. Scalars, like temperature or speed, have no sign.

That is not physics, but it can be useful in physics. For example, ##mv^2## is always positive. It takes the same energy to accelerate a body to an eastward velocity as to a westward velocity. You can spot that instantly because the power 2 is even.
 
jbriggs444 said:
Work is force times displacement. Displacement is a vector, not a scalar. The product is a dot product and produces a scalar.Mass is defined as a scalar. It is a scalar by definition.

Thank you.
 
Dale said:
Not always. There are two vector products. The dot product takes two vectors and gives a scalar, but the cross product takes two vectors and gives another vector. These are usually written as ##a \cdot b## and ##a \times b## respectively.

For the rest of your questions I agree with jbriggs444's answers above, particularly for Newtonian mechanics.

Thanks dale.
 
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anorlunda said:
Don't forget a useful property of basic arithmetic. For real numbers, even powers are always positive, odd powers can be plus or minus. Vectors, like velocity, need to have direction and thus change sign. Scalars, like temperature or speed, have no sign.

That is not physics, but it can be useful in physics. For example, ##mv^2## is always positive. It takes the same energy to accelerate a body to an eastward velocity as to a westward velocity. You can spot that instantly because the power 2 is even.

Thank you for this.
 

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