Prove only group homomorphism between Z5 and Z7 is the trivial one.

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The discussion revolves around proving that the only homomorphism between the groups Z5 and Z7 is the trivial homomorphism ψ(x)=0. Participants are examining properties of group homomorphisms and the implications of modular arithmetic in this context.

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  • Participants discuss the implications of defining ψ(1) and how it leads to the conclusion that ψ(x)=0 for all x in Z5. There is also a focus on the necessity of proving that 5x=0 implies x=0 in Z7, considering the properties of the groups involved.

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Some participants are clarifying the reasoning behind the conclusion that ψ(1)=0 and exploring the need for explicit proof regarding the implications of the gcd condition. There is acknowledgment of the complexity introduced by different ring structures, and a productive dialogue is ongoing regarding the assumptions made in the original argument.

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Participants note the importance of the gcd condition and Lagrange's theorem in the context of group homomorphisms, which may influence the validity of certain conclusions drawn in the discussion.

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1. Homework Statement .

Prove that the only homomorphism between Z5 and Z7 is ψ(x)=0 (the trivial homomorphism).

3. The Attempt at a Solution .

I wanted to check if my solution is correct, so here it goes:

Any element x in Z5 belongs to the set {0,1,2,3,4}

So, I trivially start by saying that ψ(1)=ψ(1) and then, using the fact that ψ(x+y)=ψ(x)+ψ(y), I get:
ψ(2)=ψ(1+1)=ψ(1)+ψ(1)=2ψ(1)
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ψ(5)=ψ(1+1+1+1+1)=ψ(1)+ψ(1)+ψ(1)+ψ(1)+ψ(1)=5ψ(1)

But 5=0 (mod 5) and, as ψ is a homomorphism, it must be 0= ψ(0)=ψ(5).
By transitivity, 0=5ψ(1) (mod 7) but 5≠0 (mod 7), then ψ(1)=0. But ψ(x)=xψ(1)=0 for all x in Z5, hence Hom(Z5,Z7)=0.
 
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mahler1 said:
By transitivity, 0=5ψ(1) (mod 7) but 5≠0 (mod 7), then ψ(1)=0. But ψ(x)=xψ(1)=0 for all x in Z5, hence Hom(Z5,Z7)=0.

I think this last line needs to be spelled out a little more, essentially you have claimed that 5x = 0, and since 5 is not equal to 0 that x is equal to 0. There exist rings where you can multiply two nonzero numbers and get a zero, so you should probably explicitly prove that you're OK in Z7 unless this is something you've already done in your class
 
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mahler1 said:
1. Homework Statement .

Prove that the only homomorphism between Z5 and Z7 is ψ(x)=0 (the trivial homomorphism).

3. The Attempt at a Solution .

I wanted to check if my solution is correct, so here it goes:

Any element x in Z5 belongs to the set {0,1,2,3,4}

So, I trivially start by saying that ψ(1)=ψ(1) and then, using the fact that ψ(x+y)=ψ(x)+ψ(y), I get:
ψ(2)=ψ(1+1)=ψ(1)+ψ(1)=2ψ(1)
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ψ(5)=ψ(1+1+1+1+1)=ψ(1)+ψ(1)+ψ(1)+ψ(1)+ψ(1)=5ψ(1)

But 5=0 (mod 5) and, as ψ is a homomorphism, it must be 0= ψ(0)=ψ(5).
By transitivity, 0=5ψ(1) (mod 7) but 5≠0 (mod 7), then ψ(1)=0. But ψ(x)=xψ(1)=0 for all x in Z5, hence Hom(Z5,Z7)=0.

Hint : You need to use the fact that :

##gcd(|\mathbb{Z}_5|, |\mathbb{Z}_7|) = 1##

as well as Lagrange's theorem.
 
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Office_Shredder said:
I think this last line needs to be spelled out a little more, essentially you have claimed that 5x = 0, and since 5 is not equal to 0 that x is equal to 0. There exist rings where you can multiply two nonzero numbers and get a zero, so you should probably explicitly prove that you're OK in Z7 unless this is something you've already done in your class

Yes, I see what you mean. If I am in Z6, 3≠0 (mod 6) but from 3x=0 (mod 6) I can't conclude that x=0 (mod 6) as any x even would satisfy 3x=0 (mod 6). In the original problem I could say x=0 (mod 7) just because gcm(5,7)=1. I am not so sure how to prove what I've claimed, I'll check it. Thanks.
 
prove: the only factorization of 5 as a product of a factor of 5 and a factor of 7 is 5.1.
 

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