Prove the Identity (cosecA+cotA)^2 similar to 1+cosA/1-cosA

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The discussion revolves around proving the identity \((\csc A + \cot A)^2\) and its similarity to \(\frac{1 + \cos A}{1 - \cos A}\). Participants are exploring trigonometric identities and manipulations within the context of this problem.

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  • Participants have attempted to expand the expression and rewrite it in terms of sine and cosine. There are questions about the correct interpretation of terms and the use of parentheses. Some participants express doubt about specific steps in their reasoning.

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There is an ongoing exploration of various approaches to the problem, with some participants providing hints and clarifications. While some progress has been made, there is no explicit consensus on the final steps or the correctness of the transformations being discussed.

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Some participants have noted potential ambiguities in notation and the importance of clarity in expressing mathematical identities. There is also a mention of using LaTeX for clearer communication in future posts.

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Homework Statement



Hi all , again i am stuck onto this question :( , tried over 3 sheets alone on it lol.btw. thanks for your replies ;) .
Prove the Identity (cosecA+cotA)^2 similar to 1+cosA/1-cosA

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hmm let's see.. sin2+cos2=1 ,
sec2= 1+tan2
cosec2= 1+cot2, cot=1/tanx= cosx/sinx


The Attempt at a Solution



i started off my expanding brackets:
=> cosec2A+cot2A+2cosecAcotA
and the rest well =/ no idea.. i couldn't prove them, just had a thought while typing can't i like sub . some value before expanding them ? ooh =/
 
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Write everything in terms of sinA and cosA, then simplify some more.
 


ibysaiyan said:

Homework Statement



Hi all , again i am stuck onto this question :( , tried over 3 sheets alone on it lol.btw. thanks for your replies ;) .
Prove the Identity (cosecA+cotA)^2 similar to 1+cosA/1-cosA
Do you mean "=" where you have written "similar to?"
Also, you need parentheses on the right side. What you have would be correctly interpreted as 1 + (cosA/1) - cosA, but I'm pretty sure that's not what you intended.
ibysaiyan said:

Homework Equations


hmm let's see.. sin2+cos2=1 ,
sec2= 1+tan2
cosec2= 1+cot2, cot=1/tanx= cosx/sinx
At least give some hint that you are talking about the squares of functions. Without any context sin2 would be interpreted as the sine of 2 radians.
ibysaiyan said:

The Attempt at a Solution



i started off my expanding brackets:
=> cosec2A+cot2A+2cosecAcotA
You started with (cscA + cotA)^2. This is equal to csc^2(A) + 2cscAcotA + cot^2(A). When you write cosec2A, most people would read this as cosec(2A) (usually written as csc(2A)).
ibysaiyan said:
and the rest well =/ no idea.. i couldn't prove them, just had a thought while typing can't i like sub . some value before expanding them ? ooh =/
 


Ah. again thanks a zillion :)
i think i got it..:
(cosecA + cotA) ^2
(1/SinA + CosA/SinA )^2
=>(1+cosA^2 /sin^2A) <-- i am doubtful about this bit
=> 1+cos2A/1-cos2A
 


oh sorry about that, next time i will use latex.
 


ibysaiyan said:
Ah. again thanks a zillion :)
i think i got it..:
(cosecA + cotA) ^2
(1/SinA + CosA/SinA )^2
=>(1+cosA^2 /sin^2A) <-- i am doubtful about this bit
=> 1+cos2A/1-cos2A
Here's what you want to say
(cosecA + cotA) ^2 = (1/SinA + CosA/SinA )^2
= [(1 + cosA)/sinA]^2
When you square 1 + cosA you will have three terms. What you have below has only two terms.
ibysaiyan said:
= (1+cosA^2 /sin^2A) <-- i am doubtful about this bit
 


Mark44 said:
Here's what you want to say
(cosecA + cotA) ^2 = (1/SinA + CosA/SinA )^2
= [(1 + cosA)/sinA]^2
When you square 1 + cosA you will have three terms. What you have below has only two terms.

yea (a+b)^2 formula so am i on the right track so far?
 


ibysaiyan said:
yea (a+b)^2 formula so am i on the right track so far?

this is what i got:
[(1+cosA / Sin A )]^2
=> 1+ cos^2A + 2cosA / Sin^2 A
=> hmm would i take cos as common?
 
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ibysaiyan said:
this is what i got:
[(1+cosA / Sin A )]^2
=> 1+ cos^2A + 2cosA / Sin^2 A
=> hmm would i take cos as common?
You are using ==> ("implies") when you should be using =.

You have
[tex]\frac{(1 + cosA)^2}{sin^2A}[/tex]
Leave the numerator in factored form (don't expand it).
Rewrite the denominator using an identity that you know.
Factor the denominator.
Simplify.
 
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AH... thanks a lot , i get it now( much clearer ).
Solved .
 
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Your work that you turn in should look pretty much like this:
[tex](cscA + cotA)^2~=~(\frac{1}{sinA}~+~\frac{cosA}{sinA})^2~=~\frac{(1 + cosA)^2}{sin^2A}~=~\frac{(1 + cosA)^2}{(1 - cosA)^2}~=~\frac{(1 + cosA)(1 + cosA)}{(1 - cosA)(1 + cosA)}~=~\frac{1 + cosA}{1 - cosA}[/tex]

To see my LaTeX code, click what I have above and a new window will open that has my script.
 
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Mark44 said:
Your work that you turn in should look pretty much like this:
[tex](cscA + cotA)^2~=~(\frac{1}{sinA}~+~\frac{cosA}{sinA})^2~=~\frac{(1 + cosA)^2}{sin^2A}~=~\frac{(1 + cosA)^2}{(1 - cosA)^2}~=~\frac{(1 + cosA)(1 + cosA)}{(1 - cosA)(1 + cosA)}~=~\frac{1 + cosA}{1 - cosA}[/tex]

To see my LaTeX code, click what I have above and a new window will open that has my script.


Roger that , to be honest i can't thank you enough =), anyhow i will be back again ( that's for sure using LATEX code) =).
 

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