Proving $a^2-3a-19$ is Not Divisible by 289

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The discussion centers around the problem of proving that the expression $a^2-3a-19$ is not divisible by 289, exploring various approaches and proofs related to this claim.

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  • One participant suggests a proof by contradiction, assuming that $a^2-3a-19$ is divisible by 289 and deriving that $(a+7)^2$ must be divisible by 17, leading to the conclusion that $a+7$ must also be divisible by 17.
  • This participant further derives that if $a+7 = 17k$ for some integer $k$, then the expression simplifies to $289(k^2-k) + 51$, which indicates it cannot be a multiple of 289.
  • Other participants reiterate the original problem statement without providing additional arguments or proofs, indicating a lack of new contributions to the discussion.

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Participants generally agree on the assertion that $a^2-3a-19$ is not divisible by 289, but the discussion lacks a consensus on the completeness or validity of the provided proofs.

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Some assumptions about the divisibility properties and the implications of the derived expressions may not be fully explored, leaving potential gaps in the reasoning presented.

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Show that there is no integer a for which $a^2-3a -19$ is divisible by 289
 
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kaliprasad said:
Show that there is no integer a for which $a^2-3a -19$ is divisible by 289
[sp]Proof by contradiction: Suppose that $a^2-3a -19$ is divisible by $289 = 17^2$. Since $a^2-3a -19 = (a+7)^2 -17(a+4)$, it follows that $(a+7)^2$ must be divisible by $17.$ But $17$ is prime, and therefore $a+7$ must be divisible by $17.$ So $a+7 = 17k$ for some integer $k$. But then $$a^2-3a -19 = (17k-7)^2 - 3(17k-7) - 19 = 289(k^2-k) + 51,$$ which is clearly not a multiple of $289$.[/sp]
 
kaliprasad said:
Show that there is no integer a for which $a^2-3a -19$ is divisible by 289

$$a^2-3a-19=289k$$

$$\Delta=85+1156k=17(5+68k)$$

For $\Delta$ to be a perfect square $$5+68k$$ must have an odd power of $17$ in its prime factorization and so $5+68k$ must be divisible by $17$, but we see

$$5+68k\equiv5\pmod{17}$$

and so $$a^2-3a-19$$ is not divisible by $289$.
 
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here is mine

As a first step as we see that $289 = 17^2$

Now $a^2-3a-19 = (a-10)(a+7) + 51$

The 2nd term that is 51 is divisible by 17 and for the 1st term that is product
to be divisible by 17 either (a-10) or (a+7) is divisible by 17. but if one of them is
divisible by 17 then the 2nd one is also divisible by 17.

So 1st term is (a-10)(a+7) is divisible by 289 and 2nd term 51 is not divisible by 289
so sum is not divisible by 289. Or the 2nd term is divisible by 17 and 1st term is not
divisible by 17 so sum is not divisible by 17.
 
My solution (which is much like Opalg's):

Reducing mod $17$, and using the quadratic formula (since $2 \not\mid 17$):

$a^2 - 3a - 2 = 0$ (mod $17$), therefore:

$a = 2^{-1}[-(-3) \pm \sqrt{(-3)^2 - 4(-2)}]= 9(3) = 10$ (mod $17$).

Using $a = 17k + 10$ in the original equation, we obtain:

$(17k + 10)^2 - 3(17k + 10) - 19 = 289m$

$289k^2 + 289k + 51 = 289m \implies 17(m - k - k^2) = 3$

but $17$ does not divide $3$.
 

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