Proving a+b+c=abc with Inverse Trig Functions

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The discussion revolves around proving the equation a + b + c = abc, given the equation involving inverse tangent functions: tan-1(a) + tan-1(b) + tan-1(c) = π. The subject area includes inverse trigonometric functions and their properties.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between the sum of inverse tangent functions and the proposed equation. Some suggest exploring the identity for the sum of two inverse tangents, while others question the initial setup and the variables involved. There is mention of considering cases based on the product of the variables.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with various participants offering insights and alternative perspectives. Some have proposed a systematic approach using trigonometric identities, while others have raised concerns about the feasibility of the equation based on geometric interpretations. No consensus has been reached, but several lines of reasoning are being explored.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the values of a, b, and c may represent angles in a triangle, which raises questions about the validity of the equation in that context. There is also a reference to the maximum possible value of the product of a, b, and c in relation to π.

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a teacher wrote on the board

tan-1(a) + tan-1(b) + tan-1(c) = pi
[they are inverse trig functions btw, not the recipricol 1/tanx = cotx]

hence prove that

a + b + c = abc

wow. do you have any idea where i can start? thanks. I've been uttered clueless.
 
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You should first find what
[tex]\tan^{-1} x + \tan^{-1} y[/tex] is.That is, can you find the (??) in the equation below?
[tex]\tan^{-1} x + \tan^{-1} y = \tan^{-1} (??)[/tex]
Finding the above is very interesting.
You have to consider the cases when

xy<1
xy>1 and x,y >0
xy>1 and x,y <0
 
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where did x and y come from agn?
 
x and y are just two variables. You can replace them with a and b if you wish.
 
ebola_virus said:
a teacher wrote on the board
tan-1(a) + tan-1(b) + tan-1(c) = pi
[they are inverse trig functions btw, not the recipricol 1/tanx = cotx]
hence prove that
a + b + c = abc
wow. do you have any idea where i can start? thanks. I've been uttered clueless.

so you mean:
[tex] arctan(a) + arctan(b) + arctan(c) = \pi[/tex]
 
If the first statement is true then a, b and c can be represented by the interior angles of a triangle. There is no triangle for which [itex]a + b + c = a \cdot b \cdot c[/itex] because the maximum possible value of [itex]a \cdot b \cdot c[/itex] is [itex](\pi/3)^3[/itex] which is less than [itex]\pi[/itex].
 
Tide said:
If the first statement is true then a, b and c can be represented by the interior angles of a triangle. There is no triangle for which [itex]a + b + c = a \cdot b \cdot c[/itex] because the maximum possible value of [itex]a \cdot b \cdot c[/itex] is [itex](\pi/3)^3[/itex] which is less than [itex]\pi[/itex].

An example solution is:
[tex]a=b=c=\sqrt{3}[/tex]
so
[tex]\tan^{-1}(a)=\tan^{-1}(b)=\tan^{-1}(c)=\frac{\pi}{3}[/itex]<br /> Then<br /> [tex]abc=3 \sqrt{3}[/tex]<br /> and<br /> [tex]a+b+c= 3 \sqrt{3}[/tex][/tex]
 
Yikes! What was I thinking!

Thanks for catching that, Nate!
 
er, i guess i got it

hehe i got it that makes more sort of. systematic sense.

using the double angle for tan thing

tan [a + b] = tan (a) + tan (b)
---------------
1 - tan(a)tan(b)

state that tan (a) = A
tan (b) = B you'll see why later.

anyways take the arctan of both sides of the double identity for tan and you get

a + b = arctan [tan (a) + tab (b) / 1 -tan(a)tan(b)]

now because tan (a) = A
a = arctan A and vice vresa for B

hence you end up wiht the arctan identity

arctan (A) + arctan (B) = arctan [(A+B)/(1-AB)]

and then you use that for a, b, and c you end up with the simple equation that tan pi = 0, hence

a + b + c - abc = 0
hence
a + b + c = abc

try that method. just for those of you who awanted a more systematic proof and that made more induction sort of sense. thanks again guys.
 

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